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[Revising the thread with a better price suggestion!] This medic item needs a lowering in it's price! Why? The uber want is a bit low on the item, not many people likes the item, and there is hardly any sales at the current price.
Solds
[color=#990000(Note: If this symbol "✮" appears next to the sold, that means it has been recently bought and trying to be resold for equal or higher value. Due to that, the current thread will be disregarded from this directory on the basis of price manipulation.)[/color]
[url]http://gyazo.com/3bec12a58519cb9f7f720c4f5a0669e3[/url] (Backpack.tf, 1.66 ref sold. 2 Days.)
[url]http://gyazo.com/437b6f51c519560be541d6c9efddda9c[/url] (Backpack.tf, 1.66 ref sold, 1 Day.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17048565[/url] (1.66 - About 2 Days.) *This trade might've been canceled or a duplicate was traded off.*
[url]http://bazaar.tf/trade/626996[/url] (1.77 ref - 1 Day.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16412559[/url] (1.88 Ref, 3 Weeks Ago. ✮)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17024756[/url] (2 Ref, 2 Days Ago. ✮)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16517164[/url] (2 Ref, 2 Weeks Ago. ✮)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16646928[/url] (2 Ref, 2 Weeks Ago. ✮)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15928124[/url] (2 Ref, 1 Month Ago.)
[url]http://gyazo.com/f87d24d89e4bc5468958e6cd22c9033a.png[/url] (Backpack.tf, 1 1.66 and 2 2 Ref Solds.)
Backpack.tf Asking Prices!
(These can be consider as bargaining chip prices, which can be unsold/sold territory. If it been sold, I'll bold it.)
My previous suggestion: [url]http://gyazo.com/f87d24d89e4bc5468958e6cd22c9033a[/url] (As of 3:51 AM Eastern.)
As following: (1.66, 2 days. || 1.66, 2 days. || 1.88, 12 hours. || 2 ref, 14 hours. || 2 ref, 20 hours. || 2 ref, 20 hours.)
Current Price Suggestions: [url]http://gyazo.com/2013327a06f246502b43f9f41110b4d3[/url] (As of 8:16 AM Eastern.)
As of the following: (1.66, 2 Days || 1.88, 13 Hours. || 2 Ref, 13 Hours. || 2 Ref, 18 Hours. || 2 Ref, 2 Days. || 2 Ref, 2 Days.)
***Some might've not closed trades.***
Unsolds
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16892192[/url] (2 ref, 1 week.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17064962[/url] (1.88 ref, 1 day.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17069970[/url] (2 ref, 1 day.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16574883[/url] (2 ref, 2 weeks.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17073771[/url] (2 ref, 17 hours.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16993637[/url] (2 ref, 3 days.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16641148[/url] (2 ref, 2 weeks.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16644085[/url] (2 ref, 2 weeks.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17038980[/url] (2 ref, 2 days.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17025730[/url] (2 ref, 2 days.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16809004[/url] (2 ref, 1 week.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16821775[/url] (2 ref, 1 week.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17015673[/url] (2 ref, 2 Days.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17016899[/url] (2 ref, 2 Days.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17026794[/url] (2 ref, 2 Days.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16682965[/url] (Offers, 1 Week.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17045291[/url] (2 ref, 1 Day.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17069330[/url] (2 ref, 1 Day.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16878389[/url] (2 ref, 1 Week.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17018235[/url] (2 ref, 2 Days.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17024502[/url] (2 Ref, 2 Days.)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17067198[/url] (2 Ref, 1 Day.)
Argument on the Price Range - I agree that there are a ton of 2 Refined unsolds; however, people are still buying it at that price. It might need a tweak in a month or two, if this price gets accepted, because of the price falling with it. There has been more 1.66~1.88 offers as of the past while, so I think they deserve to be brought into the spotlight and squeeze into the new price range. Also, it has been a month since the last suggestion, so it's a good time to challenge that previous suggestion!
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Counter-Evidence
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17053991[/url] (4.33 with a Festive Crusader Crossbow. (Which the Crossbow was about 2 Ref back then.))
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16344362[/url] (1 Key with Scot Bonnet. Willingly overpriced!)
My refute to the counter-evidence - The 1st and 2nd were with combining items and I suppose they threw in additional money for a tip. If the items weren't sold together, then the item alone would've sold for or less than 2 refined or probably listed as an unsold at this moment.
If you have any counter-evidence to back up the claim or any evidence to provide for my claim, then please go ahead and show. I hope my evidence is sturdy enough to provide, since I'm having a hard time to find sold listings for the Das Hazmattenhatten.
Note - I have closed the previous discussion to do further research into the sold prices and see if I can obtain more prices. I agree that the solds were a bit lack-luster; however, I have came back to this thread with better evidence and a better suggestion. I have also found out that some of the unsolds and new solds were flipped quickly, so I'm not going to include the merchant's unsold/sold prices into this thread for the sole reason of market manipulation. I'm not here to smear anyone's name and I respect people to do the same too.
Your 1.66 sellers are too young, and you can see Bleu posted 2 ref solds.
Downvote until you get some better sellers at 1.66
So, my 1.66 sellers been around for a day or two, means they're "too young"?
If you put that argument to test, then I can see two or three people buy the said item for the exact price for "too young" times. I can understand if they're jumping on you like flies does to a piece of shit (like the key merchants) or within' a few hours; however, one or two days is still "too young" to you? I'm curious to what standards would this item be not "too young" to you. I also just highlighted one of the backpack ads (that's actually on par with the current price) and they matched up to being sold within' 24 hours, So, I like an elaboration on your argument.
(I don't want to sound rude or cocky, but I just don't understand your argument when I have countered it in my opening argument.)
You don't have enough 1.66 proof , classifieds can be used only as extra proof. Downvote.
I just came across one of the backpack.tf's sellers on bazaar:
http://bazaar.tf/trade/626160
It's always nice to use multiple websites to advertise your stuff.
I see 2 solds at 1.66 that took at max 2 days
The other link you have (L3) wasn't even up for a minute because he most likely didn't want to sell
> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16412559 (1.88 Ref, 3 Weeks Ago. ✮) - This sold in 2 days
2 solds at 1.66 doesn't affect the 8+ pages on Outpost, sorry
Yet, about 8+ pages on Outpost that hasn't budged for days?
I admit, yes. Maybe a few has sold in the time; however, it doesn't discredit people have sold lower than 2 Ref. I still have the bazaar's website to use and I can see if anyone has sold any of the items on there. I've used the outpost so far, because it's overwhelming with evidence, but it's also overwhelmed with merchants out of the wazoo too.
Nobody (metaphorically) uses bazaar, hence why it's hard to get proof from there.
You can't get me to budge from my current position. Good luck to you.
Okay. So, eight pages of Outpost, which you're not secluding the merchants that flopped other players, people forgetting to close their threads or item after selling their items, collectors, and painted items. (You only looked at the page numbers, not looked at every single advertisement.) When I came across and counted, there were only 93 ads. That's about 4.5 pages that don't include painted items or "collector's items" (like number-based), but that doesn't include people that forgot to turn off their threads or people that merchant.
In my thread, I spotted 4 merchant threads. I'm not including those on the basis of price manipulation. We're down to 89 ads. I spotted 5 sold ads for 1.66~2 ref. Down to 84. Bleu spotted 1, so down to 83. There is a thread on there for 1.88, down to 82. Then we have that one person that make it look like it sold, when it didn't. So, 81. So, you just have barely have over 4 pages against about a 1/4 of lower prices. Yes, you do win; however, if they don't sell or take a while to do so, then what does that tell you? To me, that tells me that the item needs to meet up with it's supply and demand. I'm not dismissing you that you're wrong or anything, but if it's taking a while to sell at 2 Ref, then the price might want to lower. There are people that prefer using Backpack.tf or Bazaar.tf over TF2Outpost.
Sold for 2 ref.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17090444 - not in bp.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17058172
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17054088
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17061708
http://puu.sh/6dL0O.png
http://puu.sh/6dL16.png
Nice counterproof. I think I'm going to go downboat on this as well.
http://scr.hu/0kk9/jo98v mine, sold for 2 ref pure (2days old)
From your unsolds
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16892192 - 2 ref sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17064962 - 1.88 ref sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17069970 - 2 ref sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17073771 - 2 ref sold