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Unusual Soviet Gentleman Terror-Watt
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First suggestion so hopefully I have the right idea. Credit to FD God who made the last suggestion, whose work I build on here.


From well respected effect tier forum suggestions, we can make an initial, broad range for Soviet Gentleman Terror-Watt relative to Soviet Gentleman with accepted prices. The Electrostatic is 2.8-3 buds and the Roboactive is 4.5-5.5 buds.

-Listed here on the lower rung of the upper tier effects, you can see Electrostatic is mid tiered well below Terror-Watt, while Roboactive is a good margin above it in the upper tier: http://www.tf2pricecheck.net/Thread-GUIDE-Unusual-Effect-Tiers-v%E2%88%9E-Recently-Updated

-Here we find it listed at the top of the medium tier, with Electrostatic near the bottom of the medium tier and Roboactive is at the bottom of the 'God' tier: http://www.tf2pricecheck.net/Thread-GUIDE-TF2-trading-guide-all-you-need-to-know-v1-5-Updated-9-16-13

==> Based upon this, we could accept the upper bound of Electrostatic and the lower bound of Roboactive as a rough initial guess at Terror-Watt's price, so 3-4.5 buds.


First sale was described by FD God ( http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52a3dbb64cd7b8520d8b4575 ): 1 Unusual Bunsen Brave (Smoking effect), 2 Ebenezer (2.8-3 key each), 1 Villain's Veil Strangifier (4 key Strange minus reglar Veil price -> 3.0-3.2 keys), 1 Villain's Veil (5.88-6.88 ref), 1 uncrafable Villain's Veil (4.66-4.77 ref), and 1 ref.

==> 2.5-2.9 bud unusual + 10-11 keys sweeteners = 3-3.5 buds


Second sale was one where I acquired a Terror-Watt after much market research and input from several expert unusual trader friends, which I have since sold for an unpriced unusual ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16315375 ): 1 Bubbling Brown Bomber and 14 keys.

==> 2.3-2.6 bud unusual + 14 keys = 3-3.3 buds


So, both sales fell within our initial guess range of 3-4.5 buds, and by taking the common low range of 3 and the average high range of 3.4 from the two sales, my final 3-3.4 bud suggestion passes both the common sense test and is satisfying in that the two sales were so similar to one another in terms of price. Thanks for voting and I hope this helps.

    Can you please not use those bit.ly links. They're safe but they look so much like what phishers would use. Furthermore you can't price based on tier here. Oh and don't use current values, use suggested values, which for the bunsen is 3.4-4 (heavy need of an update, seems waaayyy overrated to me) and 2.1 for the bomber. But the bomber is outdated and not usable. So sorry but you will need more proof

      I wasn't using the tiers to make the price but rather just to show support for the price I came up with through sales. I will go back and change the links. Thanks for the suggestions.

        Since there are 5 of these on outpost, it might be worth looking into their offers and past sales

          I will do that when I have some time later. I need to go soon for now. Thanks again c:

    where does the high end come from?

      Which high end are you taking about? 3.4 from suggested price or the 4.5 I mentioned earlier?

        3.4

          From averaging the highs of each of the two trades, 3.5 and 3.3. Should I have just taken the higher one?

            you don't average high ends to find the range, from your proof you have 2 sales at 3 buds which is after overpay

              Why do you take the low end of the price ranges and say that is the price of a sale? Why wouldn't it be the average of the high and low? I take your point about the suggestion range though. If one sale was at 3 and another was 3.4, that would be a 3-3.4 range, while 2 @ 3 is just 3, so the range of an individual sale doesn't factor into the overall suggestion range.

                because of unusual overpay

      We have a new guideline for unusual suggestions: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-new-unusual-price-suggestion-guide-the-cheat-sheet-full-guide-soon-to-follow/


      Please have a careful look. The bubbling bomber has an outdated price and is not valid to use and you haven't used original suggested values on the bunsen brave. Even if you did, that would only be a single valid sale which is not enough for establishing a price on new hats. Thanks