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Hi all! Well, this need a drop NOW! I tried to search the best proof, and I found some succesful buyers for lower the current range, the best type of proof for lower a price.
BUYING/BOUGHT FOR 3 Keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17089135 Bought for 3 Keys to this guy: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17111913
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16566307 OMG! Is KoDoRiN! My idol! Have 1 add for 2.4 Keys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17016957 3 Keys, bought.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17128253 3 Keys, bought.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17104246 3 Keys, bought.
SELLERS / SOLD FOR 3 Keys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17054216 Sold for 3 Keys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16995392 Selling for 3 Keys. Has a very recently offer of S. F. Wrangler (2 Keys), 2 Genuine Awper Hands (1.1 Keys) and F. Jarate (0.1 Keys) = ~3.2/3.3 Keys ---> Applied overpay = 3 Keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17081785 Sold for 3 Keys.
UNSOLD for +3 Keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17124034 Going for 3 - 3.5 Keys. I think I'll offer on this trade. - Almost a day old - Good Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17027869 3.3 Key (3 Key + TOD) - 4 Days - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17103241 Bp.tf prices (Rejected 3 Keys offer) - 1 Day - Very Good bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17043722 Bp.tf prices - 4 Days - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17073903 Bp.tf prices - 3 Days - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17093375 3.5 Keys - 2 Days - Not so good bumped.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17142248 3.6 Keys - Young
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17120374 3.7 Keys - 1 Day - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17065028 3.7 Keys - 3 Days - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17120733 3.7 Keys - 1 Day - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17123481 4 Keys - Almost 1 Day - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17027936 4 Keys - 4 Days - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17088198 4 Keys - 2 Days - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17100610 4 Keys - 1 Day - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17068040 4 Keys - 3 Days - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17055917 4 Keys - 3 Days - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17060791 4 Keys - 3 Days - VG Bumped (Apparently sold one in the first day)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17097239 4 Keys - 2 Days - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17006424 4 Keys - 5 Days - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17031967 4 Keys - 4 Days - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16907542 4 Keys - 1 Week - VG Bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16518251 B/O: 6 Keys C/O: 2 Keys + 3 Refs.
FUNNY OUTLIERS! (Just for fun)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16608428 Want a Big Kill!
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16536800 B/O of 10 Keys...
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17089062 Wants a S. F. Black Box...
Conclusion
In first time, I think on a range of 3 - 3.5 Keys, but I don't saw enough sellers at 3.1 - 3.5 Keys. Succesfull buyers are really great and those + sellers/sales for 3 Keys are enough for 3 Keys flat. Nothing more to say.
Note: I wont stay online in the following hours, so I can't update this suggestion or give extra-proof now. Maybe in 5/6 hours yes, or tomorrow.
As always, sorry for the bad english, extra-proof is always appreciate, counter-proof is welcome. Comments like "Bad proof, downvote!" aren't useful. If you downvote, explain why. If you upvote, comment that!.
Looks good for me,
Upvote my friend
lol... -7 votes on your comment.
-12 votes on the comment. LOL
Aww, he's upset at our comments and disliked them both.
I wonder if it's a curse on this comment chain, all of them will/have already gotten dislikes
I'm special because I commented too. Ermahgerd
3 keys prob quick sell
Well, so prove what 4 Keys sell easy....
I love how alt accounts or just idiots guys downvote my comment without any reason. Or maybe yes, because they have one S. F. Sapper and don't want to drop the price...
how can 3 keys be a quicksell if it is already included in the range? I am just curious.
*Facepalm*
Doing an experiment myself: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17151851
PS: I forgot it: Of course I haven't auto-bump and my trade wont bump constantly.
You have to prove that it doesn't sell for 4 keys anymore, and since I recently bought if for 4 keys, this can't get a drop! Just check my profile and check recent trades.
I think you are getting this confused, weather you got highballed or not has nothing to do with the new price.
saying just you bought one for 4 keys isn't enough, show us some tangible counter proof. also, I was pretty sure recent trades are for your own eyes only, not for us sketchy trader people to root through at our leisure :p but I may be wrong
I just bought one for 4 keys, couldn't find any for 3 keys! Even added 3 people who instantly refused 3 key ofers, so I got bored of it and paid 4 keys to the fourth person.
You should do a trade BUYING one for 3 Keys, like me (I already bought it, for 3 Keys + 0.55). Don't expect to someone selling it for a low price, because they aren't so many.
Yeah, you are right.
Some more proof I guess
Seen many trades 3 keys, just a few:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17182916 Unsold 3 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17207643 3 keys
http://bazaar.tf/trade/637010
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17184710 Sold 3 keys (Quicksold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17183859 3 keys, 20 hours unsold
Thanks a lot dude.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17238288
mine was sold for 3keys
a lot on outpost, i bought one for 3 keys pure.. i lose for it only 5 minutes, easy to buy for 3
regardless the upvote you have there is zero links sold for 3 keys
downvote
there is no good quality proofs in there
Em, I don't need sales for down the price. I just need sellers and unsolds at current price. I have succesfully buyers for 3 Keys (What mean there are many sellers for that price). Here some solds, if you want.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17151851 My trade! Bought one easy for 3 Keys + 0.55. (It isn't 1.1 Keys, and I really wanted to buy it fast). (LOL 213 Views. This seems to be the only link who was checked for so many users).
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17189782 Bought one for 2 Keys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17207643 Sold for 3 Keys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17183859 Sold for 3 Keys.
It's funny that a strange festive sapper is already less than the regular strange sapper. Good proof though, so upvote.
Am I the only one, who thinks that new 2013 festive weapons look awful?
they are horrendous... the only cool looking 1 is the gloves and they are dirt cheap lol
You are defiantly not the only one, first years festives were simple yet somehow satisfying, little lights here and done. Second years festives they added a little bell on some and an occasional ribbon, no complaints. This years......"lets cover the entire thing in wrapping paper, glue candy canes to it, and make it as colorful as McDonald's happy meal toy!" Yeah not feelin it. Have you seen the flare gun? Bleh. And the Jarate? -_- gloves are the only one I like and maybe the Eyelander. Others are to dang colorful, like a dragon throwing up a disco ball.
Anyway in regards to the suggestion, 4 keys clearly isn't happening and 3 keys seems to be the going price on the item atm. Up vote
Nop, I agree! Especially the Flare Gun, the Black Box and the GRU. The Jarate and the Wrangler are normals. I like more the common Sapper than this. But I can't buy a normal S. Sapper and maybe will buy this.
The only ones I dislike are the Festive Sapper and Festive Jarate. The other ones are traditional enough.
I like how people were saying this were the best festives of all on the beginning, and now everyone hates them? I see why though, the prices, people don't like something because how it looks like, they like the price if its high so they can brag about it being a pricey item. Last years festives were the same case, but the difference is that there is more players now than what there was last year or 2 years ago. Last years festives dropped to 1 ref and went back up, a lot for some and a little for others, now this years festives has a huge stock on the market, making them not go back up in price but go even more down in price after the Smissmas event. I can bet that next years festives, if they are even any, will go for as low as 1 rec, why? Because the market will be full of them since more players are into TF2. Supply and demand, is all about it. It is funny how people think this years festives or even last years festives will go as much as tthe 2011 festives, just pathetic and sad. Me, in my own personal opinion, like festives with only lights, but I like how Valve is trying to do implement more *Christmas* Items into new festives, but the only one I don't really get is the Festive Force-A-Nature.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17095919 - Bought for 3 keys. Upvote man.
Thanks a lot men.
Some guy with so many accounts is downvoting every comment positive to the suggestion...
yeah that happens, a lot. I think it turns them on.
> it turns them on
I'm done
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17172122 sold for 4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17156118 sold 3.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17161248 sold 3keys1ref
needs a drop, many for 3, but why no range?
Because not enough proof for a high-end of 3.5 Keys or 3.2. I thought on a range. But for that reason i wont did a range.
PS: And I don't like the conservative suggestions. Conservative is DEATH! (Just sarcasm).
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17039010 < I sold many for 3.3 - 3.4 keys in the past 6 days
The last suggestion was accepted just 3 days ago. But you have 1 added yesterday. It isn't enough counter-proof, because is old.
Excellent range of proof, upvote!
not sure if this helps
http://postimg.org/image/crjki6u6d/
am quick-buying for 2 keys each, that was a successful trade hence i can get the screenshot missed two trade offers for same price as i was asleep >.> and steam isn't letting me retrieve incoming trade offer history so cant provide that proof atm.
People want to sell it now.
sounds good :)
You cant get it anymore so It should be going up.
Just because you can't get it anymore doesn't mean it should go up. Is it me or do most of the people who own the item which is going down say this?
Please, proof. Not opinions.
And... People want to sell it, that should be going down right?
yet you ignored any proof of someone buying for more then 3 keys
I don't searched proof for buyers. I just found those. You can be a good person, and show some proof yourself.
this is like saying vintage pyro vision goggles and the manniversary hat should go skyrocketing because you can't get them anymore :p (yes extreme example)
Strange sapper is 4 keys so let's make SF sapper 3 keys because that makes sense!
Yeah, so sense! But the proof is good. S. Holy Mackerel is 4 Keys and the festive one too (Some months ago, the normal one was more expensive).
3 - 3.5 would be more fitting range imo
Not enough proof for high-end. I thought on do a range like that, but I don't found enough proof.
I guess ~3 keys is accurate. It took me a minute to find:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17093375 - 3 keys
Thanks for the support mate.
if this pass, then this will be the first S.F. that worth LESS than the Strange stock counterpart..... wow
Really now the Strange normal is 3.75 and this 3.5 Key approximately.
And in 27 - 29 December, 2012, the S. Holy Mackerel was 9 Keys, and the Festive one was 5-7 Keys. And the normal one was more expensive for long time. Now they are equal.
It's because the festive sapper looks AWFUL in my humble opinion.
In first person yeah, really looks awesome, but I don't like so much it on third person.
So let me get this straight, you want a festive sapper to be worth less than a regular one?
it already is
"Really now the Strange normal is 3.75 and this 3.5 Key approximately.
And in 27 - 29 December, 2012, the S. Holy Mackerel was 9 Keys, and the Festive one was 5-7 Keys. And the normal one was more expensive for long time. Now they are equal."
Aand... This will up, is a festive... Obviously will up their price in april-september, like all the festives.
I would look for more proof, but so many users helped... I think more proof isn't necessary anymore.
Just a weird questio, WHy is hte festive version cheaper than the normal strange? Arent festives supposed to be special and worth a lot mroe than normal strnage? Idk It usually works that way with 2011, 2012 festives and most 2013 except the sapper. Just a weird question Either normal sapper goes down or this goes up and I think with the state of the s.f. sapper, the s. sapper is gonna go down
Simple...
Demand.
More people are into the normal one than the strange one.
Also, another factor comes in...
Supply.
Normal one is rarer than the Festive one.
"In 27 - 29 December, 2012, the S. Holy Mackerel was 9 Keys, and the Festive one was 5-7 Keys. And the normal one was more expensive for long time. Now they are equal."
Before this suggestion will get accepted/closed. I want to know why it's 4 days open, when other S. F. suggestion has been open for a 1 day max. And this suggestion get enough positive votes all the times.
Please, I have this doubt, this isn't a critic, just a doubt.
some mods just hadn't sell theirs s.f.sappers yet ;D
This will need a range. Seems to have no problems selling for 3.3-3.4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17282570
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17271341
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17261201
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17250019
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17148599
Your proof of unsolds shows that 4 keys should not be in the range. And I agree with that. But I'm still seeing sales at 3 keys + 2 ref and 3 keys + 3 ref within a day. And you have not adequately disproved those.
The reason your suggestion has been up for a while is that I (and possibly other mods) had thought I would see additional proof in comments to help support your range. But I'm mainly seeing very quick sales at 3 keys and some support showing sales at 3.3-3.4. A range will be needed here.