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"Oh god, it's him again..."
Before I start, I ask one thing: let bygones be bygones. We all can agree what happened last time was just stupid and should be put to death, er, bed.
This suggestion will be more conservative. So, 1 to 1.1. We all go home happy-ish.
I would like to point out that most of the sellers on backpack.tf at the moment aren't going for any more than 1 key. Just something to consider.
Key or bellow (1 key unless specified otherwise):
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17136120 (6 ref)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17171452 (Clearly less than one key)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17132919 (6)
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52cb89b64cd7b88b598b4567 (6.66-it's gone so it comes up as an error)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17131919 (6.66)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17133452 (6.66)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17159399 (6.66)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17159353
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17159007
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17158971
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17158950
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52c97b404dd7b8ec418b456a
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17137713
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17137932
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17137966
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17137989
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17137993
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17138311
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17138634
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17138649
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17138809
The token trade (IMO) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17131319
1 key with 3 parts and custom named. Let that sink in.
Selling for 1 key or less:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17133433
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52d1cb164dd7b8d0298b4567
Good enough. Point is, 1 key sellers are in no short supply.
This is tiring. If you need more evidence for 1 key,
go f**k yourselfjust ask.Above 1 key unsolds:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17172167
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17170483
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17169763
http://bazaar.tf/trade/634523 (1-1.2 keys...I'm not kidding, that's what he wrote)
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52c907bc4cd7b8ea0b8b4567
http://bazaar.tf/trade/634455 (8 ref)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17165872 (1.2 keys)
http://bazaar.tf/trade/634322 (1.2)
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52c8f0d14cd7b8ec5b8b456a (1.1)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17164870 (1.2)
Above 1 key (solds only):
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52cc4b214cd7b8d6488b4568 (1.1)
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52c8e5664cd7b80a438b4568 (1.2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17147366 (1 key 1 rec)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17168201 (8 ref)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17171773 (1 key, 2 ref, but I'm not sure if it was actually sold for that price)
I'm not going to lie: I cannot find anymore. They've become few and far between at this point. But, I won't completely ignore them.
If you can find more evidence within the last few days (I don't want some month old trade, because it's illegitimate), please share for counter proof.
No hard feelings. Please upvote.
Edit: last accepted price from me and Mengineer was almost a month ago. Time for a little update, IMO.
Edit edit: I hypothesize that the only reason people have sold things at the price they have was because of this website. Trust me, I've asked some people. If it said that it was still 3 keys, that's the price they would still be selling and buying it. If it said it was 3 ref, that's the price people would sell it at. Any higher trade than 1 key is likely due to idiocy, considering you can get one for a key or less if you look on more than one web page.
You've got some vomit on your sweater
Almost every key or below sale sold instantly and the outpost trade for 1 key or less is not bumped.
Along with that both above 1 key sales are sold in a day, Rather quickly Downvote
You haven't supplied any unsolds at 1.2 keys and only 1 sold at 1.1.
And agreeing with Obelisk, the 1 key sales all went within a bump and 1.2 selling within the day.
So i'd have to downvote, sorry.
Thanks for reminding me. I'll get the unsolds.
Ive been getting a rather high supply of Strange Grenade Launchers lately for 5 ref and am having great luck selling them at 1 key, but I did try and sell them at 1 key + 1 ref before and I't didn't sell like my 1 key ones. High demand. upvote, a teeny tiny wibbly wobbly more links would be bewwy nice<3
Sold for ~1.2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17165511
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17166871 1 key + 1 rec
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9982909
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17170446
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17171773
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17086993
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17159215
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17158212
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17025252 3x
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17020150
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17034441
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16893957
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16841010
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16887056
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17139237
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17152932
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17148997
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17148895 http://puu.sh/6hJT5.png
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17148038
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17141900
http://puu.sh/6fEAT.png
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17020150
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17034441
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16893957
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16841010
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16887056
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16967975
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16893185 8.33 offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16959302
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16921431
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16959833
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16917512
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16966531
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16972428
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16935985
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16970151 sold for 8.22, comments
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16970132
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16934310
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16956717
Some of these are from counterproofs / unsolds from the past three failed suggestions within this week.
I appreciate your counterproofs but some of these are a week old.
Not that I'm against you. I'm not.
However, I can find more solds at a key than solds sold for more. (say that 3x fast)
I would also like to refer to my hypothesis. I legitimately believe that idiots out there will buy it for more than a key because they don't look after one page.
This is becoming the new degreaser/pistol suggestion lately, I've seen so many failed attempts at lowering it.
Because few thought it would stick around at this price for this long. At the rate it was dropping people thought it was going to keep on dropping but it suddenly levelled out.
Nope, three failed suggestions, very good counter-proof on all of them, and too in this (From Offline). This strange will be raise when the people will try to get more than 1.2 Keys for it.
I rather doubt it.
Over 56k of them, many sellers and many buyers. Although rare that any logic plays into it, the law of supply and demand dictates a price reduction.
Also, if you care to look at the counter proof here, some of them are repeats and some are slightly old.
I don't believe I'm overstepping my boundaries here. It will pass. Just wait.
Over 56k? And it matter? There exist 59k of S. Dead Ringers and this have a price of 1 - 1.1 Key. And 66k of S. Degreaser and this have a value of 2 Keys... And too exist 39k of S. Minigun and this have a price of 1.1 - 1.2 Key. 56k is a poor number for a strange yet. And before what this Strange was released, there was 44k of this. Just 10k more... This isn't a good proof for value a item. Still downvote.
I would like to remind you about how "new" the Strange Grenade Launcher is. All these other stranges in question have been around a lot longer without a re-release. They've had all their prices raised on the stigma that they could not be uncrated anymore. Although not it isn't true that they cannot be uncrated anymore, people would rather not take the risk of uncrating another invaluable item from the crates of yesteryear, so they take the safe and easy route of direct buying.
This website is far from perfect. In fact, it's a horrible representation of the market. Gather up a few trades from a couple sites and BAM, there's a price everyone can live with.
However, there are enough decent people here that will overlook this stigma and "counterproof". (which honestly is flimsy as the proof itself. Who knows if people actually bought certain items for certain prices for sure? The sights don't acknowledge a successful trade. Only that they've been closed.)
There have been more 1 key sales this month than 1.2 key sales. They look at the ratio.
This isn't a radical change either. I'm not saying go to 1 key. I'm saying that we should take a step down. It won't stop 1.2 key sales but it's more representative of the market.
I agree with it: There are so many 1 Key sales... But too 1.2 Key sales. 1 Key sells very quickly, doesn't matter if there are 2 or 20, sells quickly. 1.2 Key sells not so quickly, and there maybe are 15, while are 20 1 Key sales... That means it must be down? Nope. 1.2 Key sales are so valid as 1 Key sales, maybe 1 Key is a little bit more common (I don't think that), but 1.2 shouldn't be out of the range.
Sold mine easily for 1 key 1,33 ref
Well, 1.1 keys IS closer to 1 key + 1 ref than 1.2 keys.