Suggestion: The Bitter Taste of Defeat and Lime at 4.33 ref

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~1.7 keys

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This suggestion was accepted Tue, 14 Jan 14 18:01:55 +0000 by polar.

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Looks like quite a few people have tried to raise the price before me, but by massive amounts. I am going to attempt a sensible approach and raise the price slowly

These sell quickly at 4.33, and 4 ref has become a quicksell price.

Proof:

Sold at "bp.tf price"(Presumably high range)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17143048 (Sold within 2 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17144274 (Four potential sales in a day)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17183904

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17179479

Sold at 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17169413 (7 views)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17169673 (11 views)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17171068 ( 10 views, 1 bookmark)

http://bazaar.tf/trade/633781 (Sold within a day, 7 views)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17153472 (5 views, no bumps)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17178059 ( 13 views)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17177706 (10 views)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17190577 (5 views)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17188270

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17183537 (All gone within 8 views)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17172850

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17169413

Sold at 4.33 and above

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17143831

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17143737 ("Out of stock")

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17145883 1:1 with a festive huntsman (5-5.33)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17175461 (Sold at 5 ref?)

Selling at 4.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17153645 (Bookmarked after 11 views)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17191108 (Bookmarked after 10)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17185847 (Bookmarked after 9)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17185168

This is incredibly difficult to get accurate proof for, as everyone is selling them at very high prices.

Feel free to add proof and check my links.

Also, only one listing for 4 ref in classified listings, sellers is on snooze and only 2 for 4.33

Good proofs along with the support you got from another user.

Rising the gear up

Little bit extra proof:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17190030 - Bought for a key, lol

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17177042 - Bought for a key, lol #2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17168265 - Buyer for 4,33 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17182591 - Buyer for 4,44 ref

I also agree that price needs a bump, as the sale is over. 4 seems like a quicksell now. Many buyers at 4 showing that it's a quicksell. And decent amount of sales/offers/buyers at 4,33 and above.

but the people sell to the scrap.tf bots, and they had alot, you see how much`s the price that bots are paying?

Scrap.tf is not considered valid proof.

i dint say that it was proof, where did i sayed that?, dislike it idc

those who sale to scrap.tf they probably need either metal fast or too lazy to sell it to others :P

same as hats, dont u think? and bills and stuff like that

same as hats, ~~dont u think?~~ i do think but here we just talking about paint

and you`r the one who try to be nice (yeah right), i just pointed that out pal, what a jerk

Look your not one to be pointing fingers

oh you mean quick sell.tf yea that don't count.

Lol, nice name for it mate :)

I sold two for a key each: http://puu.sh/6ivNE.png

Your proof shows that 4 ref happens more often than 4.33. How fast something sells is only one factor to consider. More important is what the most common trade point actually is. I'm not seeing enough here for your suggested range.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17203476 - Sold one for 4,33 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17185168 - Seems like he's out of stock at 4,33 ref (Sold at least 1 or 2)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17190972 - Sold one for 4,66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17192750 - Sold one for 6 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17185944 - Sold one for 6 ref

Seriously, 4 seems like a quicksell even if eventually is the most common traded part. Why would you leave a quicksell price in the price when you even have sales up to 1 key .. Also not many trades open for 4 ref and the only reason that the sellers are still willing to sell them for that price is because they just agree with the bp.tf price. I am not saying that it's a bad thing, just when the sale is over it's normal that the price is going up in price.

If an item sells 100 times for 4 and 3 times for 4.33, price should be 4, independent of time it takes to sell. Lines get blurred as the discrepancy in sales narrows. But at the end of the day, number of sales trumps all.

Having said that, it's a lot easier to find sales at 4 ref from trade.tf than it is to find sales at 4.33. So just because there are a lot of 4 ref sales here doesn't mean that that is the most common trade point.

Hm, I see .. Well, trade.tf is also at around 4,33 ref atm and currently none in classifieds below 4,33 so I guess the more the time this suggestion is open, the more proof we show and it will be like the TODs Suggestion: At the first it didn't had much proof but later more was added and it was valid then. :p

That is typically why we leave suggestions up for 4-5 days. Not out of laziness but rather to wait for added proof when we feel the proof in the suggestion is not enough.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17205866 - Buying for 4 ref