Suggestion: Strange Part: Heavies Killed at 1.66–2 ref

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~5.67 ref

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I love you all and you're all wonderful people. Please vote based on facts, and read all of it. Final remaking. I will not respond to trolls and spam.

The fact there are buyers for 1.33 and struggling to get parts shows 1.33 is a quicksell.

Buying for 1.33 or more:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16244227 Has been up for 1 month with autobumps and has had ZERO people sell to him.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17211125 is buying for 1.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16791833 Also buying for 1.33 each, been up for 2 weeks, only bought one

Sold/offered/bought 1.66:

http://imgur.com/MzfiVLa (with overpay it works out to be 1.66)

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52d2e2e94cd7b8055c8b4568 Erik bought one for 1.66 (getting a screenshot as soon as he's online)

Sold for 2 ref and above:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15130991 offered a key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9478379 sold one for 2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17134114 sold for 3 ref

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52d2e2e94cd7b8055c8b4568 Iownyourface bought one for 2 ref (getting a screenshot as soon as he's online as well)

And they sell on the market for 2 ref.

Quit spamming this suggestion.

this includes using your alt account. not shady at all

Proof is neat but staying neutral until more links at 2 ref

Please elaborate how is it neat when there is no links supporting 1.66 ref

http://imgur.com/MzfiVLa (with overpay it works out to be 1.66)

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52d2e2e94cd7b8055c8b4568 Erik bought one for 1.66 (getting a screenshot as soon as he's online)

Say what?

such profanity

what what

Hope you enjoy your ban, making a troll suggestion is no way to prove a point.

This isn't a troll suggestion. If people would think for themselves they would see.

Not you, the user Nickps made a troll suggestion to mock you.

u made this part soo rare :P

Owns 121... are you fucking serious?

Seriously, why would anyone own that much parts and attempt to raise the price.

he made 4 suggestion for this exact strange part in one day , all closed because lack of proof and hes still spamming more and more suggestions for this.

price manipulation at its finest.

Please find accurate counterproof if you can.

too many copy and paste " Please find accurate counterproof if you can. "

But have you? No, you haven't. Until then you are only hiding behind your posts.

Please find accurate counterproof if you can.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16244227 Has been up for 1 month with autobumps and has had ZERO people sell to him.

False , he has 10 of this same strange part in his bp.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17211125

Posted only 1 hour ago and he bought one.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16791833

Are you kidding me? Last bump was 11 hours ago , not well bumped so its invalid proof.

And then you have two sales for 1,66 one for 2.00 refs , one clearly outlier sale for 1 key another for 3 refs. Do you think three sales for an item outruns the entire market? Come on , you are a blue belt use common sense.

Stop trying harder , this suggestion its horrible and has barely valid proof.

Not to mention in the last link, one of the parts is blacked out and the owner's S. Scattergun has Heavies Killed, so it can be assumed that he already used it on that.

3 ref sold in less than 4 hours. Not an outlier.

He even made alternate accounts to try and manipulate the price more, usually if one suggestion doesn't get passed, the other one does.

Mainly to expedite the process. I don't see why people hate me so much.

they dont hate u mate they dont like the proof coz seems to be weak

to be honest i only see 2 links at 2 ref sales which not really sure if they are right or no coz they just said sold i know but how ever dunno what to say

Please find accurate counterproof if you can.

that wasnt counter proof mate i said some thing about ur proof that im not really sure about it ( the 2 ref sales )

Constructive criticism?

Someone offering 2 ref in items and someone saying they bought one for 1.66 isn't

enough.

But the fact 1.33 is a quicksell already supports 1.66

Please, mods ban him.

You just have 2 links for 1.66 and other one for 2 refs. This suggestion was made twice today. If you get closed on your first suggestion, should wait 1 week, prepare other suggestion, and try again. Not 3 in one day!

He has no links supporting 1.66 ref. Check again.

http://imgur.com/MzfiVLa (with overpay it works out to be 1.66)

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52d2e2e94cd7b8055c8b4568 Erik bought one for 1.66 (getting a screenshot as soon as he's online)

Please, try not to overlook the proof.

Sorry but I have not overlooked your proof.

I will say it again.

http://imgur.com/MzfiVLa --> This link nowhere mentions about 1.66 ref

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52d2e2e94cd7b8055c8b4568 ---> If they claim they bought at certain price, they need to show proof, supporting your suggestion. I can claim that I bought it for 4 ref. Is it true? Of course not, I never bought this strange part ever...But hey, I am claiming that I bought for 4 ref without giving any proof."

From my last post.

I completely agree with Plaxorous.

PS: More Proof Avery... YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT? YOU NEED MORE PROOF than 3 or 4 links (Bad links)

And there are no more links. I have checked every link on outpost regarding this part. This is the best the proof can get.

If there is no proof to support your price, then there is no need to raise the price.

If you can find more links, feel free. But these are the only links on outpost.

And the trades show for "I ate all your candy"? There are from Outpost.

I still say: Please, close it.

Nope. This is a fine suggestion.

A lot of text but just a couple of links of sales at higher than 1.33 ref... This item is commonly traded at 1.33 ref:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17212228 - Selling for backpack prices, so 1.33 ref.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17145552 - 2 in stock and 0 sold, the seller is willing to do 1.33 ref twice. Not higher offers in 2 days.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17078564 - Sold for 1.33 ref.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17067493 Sold for 1.33 ref.

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9983687 Sold for 1.33 ref.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17178895 Sold for 1.33 ref.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17177956 Sold for 1.33 ref.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17167928 Sold for 1.33 ref.

All sold extremely quickly. At the VERY least it should be 1.66

Considering that there are still a lot of sellers at 1.33, that shows that the price isn't ready for 1.66 yet.

Considering there are tons of solds at higher than 1.33, it's ready.

Well, around one day for each sale like other parts, miscs or hats. It only proves that it sells fine at the current price. I couldn't find a single link of someone selling it for 1.66 ref or a successful sale at 1.66 ref. And like I wrote, there's still a seller willing to do 1.33 ref for his two heavies parts and they're still unsold since 2 days ago.

Outlier, I'd say.

An outlier is a part of the data that lies away from the rest of the scores, 1.33 is in fact with the majority of the proof presented here, comments and original proof combined.

Not sure if this means anything, but trade.tf says 1.33.

Neutral for now.

Someone should bring out the ban hammer.

Sorry but best comment I read this week.

Not sure why I got downvoted, can anyone enlighten me?

Mostly because you said "Neutral" when clearly the proof has no support for 1.66 ref and 2 ref sales are poor. Over that, someone counter-proofed the OP. I am not one of them though. :P

So, people see no reason to staying neutral or upvoting when there is no proof for the price the OP is suggesting.

Also, the OP suggested with same thing over 3 times within 1 day only.

Ah, so just poor wording on my part. :>

Mainly because of new proof.

Hey, I'm just doing what BP.TF is made for, making correct suggestions.

Judging by the fact you've missed three suggestions for this within a single day, I'd say that's proof enough against that claim.

I actually closed them myself. Mods didn't.

TBH I see the need for a raise, but probably to like 1.33-1.66 instead of to like 2 ref.

I tried that. People accused me of being a price manipulator. I would actually like you to make a suggestion, as people hate me with a passion. Then this would be good.

People don't hate you, you just need better proof. Quit being so stubborn the current price is fine.

Considering one was sold for 3 ref 8 hours ago, one was sold for 2 ref 2 days ago, and one sold for a key 6 days ago and that 1.33 sells in less than a day? I don't think so.

Personally myself, I have nothing against how many you own. Its the lack of proof. Also, its making people to question you is because you are trying too hard to increase the price value of this item with weak proof.

...And for that reason, people are accusing you of manipulator.

If I were in your position and my first suggestion failed, I would wait it out, get solid proof for the price I am suggesting. Then I would suggest.

seriously i dont wanna judge u coz u own that many i dont care at all how mcuh u own im just saying ur proof is not really strong and would be better if you could make it better any way dont think this suggestion will pass coz u not providing good proof

edit : and i dont hate u :P

There's no way to get better proof, sir. I have included EVERY LINK on outpost that has sold. If there were more proof I would include it. I'm glad you don't hate me, unlike most here seem to.

when u saying " There's no way to get better proof, " that means is not time for it to rise u should wait more and find more sales and proof

I really don't hate you. You have 112 suggestions accepted and I just 14, I haven't any reason for hate you. I agree with Plaxorous again, "its making people to question you is because you are trying too hard to increase the price value of this item with weak proof."

And please stop to say "I included every link on outpost", because "I ate all your candy" show some more counter-proof.

frick bud, ya own 121??? and there isnt that much proof, this is retarded. price manip-ulation

manipulation. thats all

really, this is one of the worse suggestions i've seen in awhile that actually tried to post proof EASY DOWNVOTE

63 comments, 2 hours. 0_o

Legit….

What do you expect? Avery is a known manipulator.

lol. idk. its just funny

I think you mean blue belt with 112 suggestions accepted. I know what the price of things should be far more than you.

You keep replying to "counterproof qq"

Here you go, read the rules -

"A few trades do not represent the market: Make sure your proof covers both buyers and sellers, are not too new, and that your links agree with each other."

Downvote.

Ah, but you're wrong. A few trades literally is the market in this case.

Well at least there is an ACTUAL suggestion for this item now. So we can now stop all this hate and flame. Down voted for several reasons that has been brought up above. Lack of proof, inaccurate information etc. take a look at the other suggestion and maybe pick up a few tips for the better.