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The Kringle Collection
Submitted by ★ Kevin the Chicken God
71.27%
1.2 keys
1.1–1.2 keys
27
~2.44 ref
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Seemed like 1.1 was the right way to go, that said, apparently people still buy at 1.2?

SO RESUGGESTING AGAIN YOU fun people

Millbot was right, people care a lot about their kringle prices

Its been so long since I did a non-unusual item, sorry if this is kinda shiet

1.2 then=7 ref

1 now=7 ref

This is technically a raise? No it's not

Sellers at 1.2 or under:

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52d1d3fe4cd7b8812a8b456c <--- 1 at 1, 7 at 1.1,6 at 1.1-1.2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17206240 <---1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17221330 <--- 1.1, (he had the add, but the guy got one at 1 key) ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17221330 )

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17235127 <-- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17229363 <--- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17212939 <-- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17218776 <--- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17163209 <-- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17122118 <-- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17084049 <--- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17218287 <--- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17112528 <-- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17209911 <-- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17213040 <--- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17239640 <--- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17228165 <--- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17238830 <--- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17004502 <--- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17192600 <--- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16991290 <--- ~1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17087969 <---1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17129858 <--- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17112528 <-- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17206240 <--- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17214965 <--- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17238218 <--- 1.1?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17179632 <---1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17237667 <--- 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17234369 <-- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17232446 <--- 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17247704 <-- 1.1


Unsolds at 1.2:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17112619 <--- 4 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16767808 <-- 2 weeks

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17191404 <-- a day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15094415 <--- a loong time (prolly changed price)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17188827 <--- a day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16869037 <--- a week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17087908 <--- 6 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16167640 <--- 2 months

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17177516 <--- 2 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17163869 <--- 3 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16092686 <--- took a month to get a buyer

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17112059 <-- 5 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16948627 <--- a week


Successful buyers at less than 1.2:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17235156 <--1 (got an add within a minute)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17225567 <---1 (closed fast)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17224259 <--- 1 (within an hour)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17224135 <-- 1? (quickly)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17222885 <--1 (very fast)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17221330 <--1 (within an hour)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17216379 <--- 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17209294 <--- 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17207866 <--1 (has gotten 2 so far)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17197436 <--- 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17188929 <--- 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17187563 <--- 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17247174 <--- 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17245572 <--- 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17096503 <-- 1.1 (all dem adds)


Successful Sellers at 1.2:

http://i.imgur.com/i2BzpBI.png

http://i.imgur.com/japSjlp.png

http://i.imgur.com/L68emBh.png

http://i.imgur.com/TPDWU9M.png

http://i.imgur.com/UcKUcLP.png

http://i.imgur.com/6K11yo8.png

http://i.imgur.com/fIqRTt2.png

http://i.imgur.com/3AUvOS8.png

http://i.imgur.com/vvOCHF8.png

http://i.imgur.com/XAqc6jn.png (thanks rozsef for the proof)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17240023

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17237747 <--- apparently for 1.4 :L

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9986698

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17236633

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17232445

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17231733

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17231598

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9986398

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17229668


Loads of successful buyers at 1 very quickly puts 1 in the range despite the lack of sellers. Sellers still having success at 1.2, so its in the range (more proof of that will be added soon)

Also, bunch of sales still up at 1 if you're looking to make a quick ref :P

Why do I still have unsolds in there?

Idunno, makes my suggestion look better proves how truly instable the price of the kringle is


Avatar ★ Kevin the Chicken God · modified

    Well done, good price now I think. Up vote.

    Avatar ★ ConVict | Kid Galaxy · posted

      I thought

      1.2 keys = 1 key + 1 ref

      1.1 keys = 1 key + 0.44-066 refish


      Mind=Fuckinblown.

      Avatar OverduePixels · posted

        I humbly request a mod to clear this up. This suggestion does not make sense according to my point of view.

        Avatar OverduePixels · posted

          first off, your math is wrong, if you read all of the comments then you'd know about the whole range error thing

          you arent the only person to think this, so Ill just make a comment specifying that

          1.1=7.77

          1.2=8.44

          Avatar ★ Kevin the Chicken God · posted

            but if keys are going up shouldn't hats and miscs go up with them?

            if its refs that are dropping then shouldn't all hats and miscs that are worth refs go up dramatically?

            ★ Neostorm_X · posted

              no... nononononononononononono

              if the hats were priced in ref they would (i.e. asking for 8 ref on something, the hats value would go down as keys went up) but inflation doensnt effect they're prices

              Avatar ★ Kevin the Chicken God · posted

              this guy has his math done right according to current key prices :p

              Avatar ★ Vrakos Anthrakir · posted

          The preference here is to go out to two decimal places and to maybe use 1.15 as the representation for 1 key + 1 ref. 1.1 keys is a closer approximation of 1 key + 1 ref than 1.2 keys and with the current trend of keys, that approximation only seems to be getting closer. More and more people are also using that in classifieds.


          Having said that, I don't have any problem with the range of 1.1-1.2 as it clearly captures the most commonly traded value here.

          Avatar ★ polar · posted

        1.2 = 8ref / 1key + 1ref


        Doubt this will get a minor update, since mine didn't get accepted when keys were at 1.15 = 1key + 1ref http://backpack.tf/vote/id/529ce22c4dd7b85b598b4568


        Also Kringle standing pretty strong, tried reducing it twice - http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5262d46a4dd7b81f168b4568 & http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5275246c4dd7b8480e8b4568


        I don't see the point of this suggestion tbh.

        Avatar ★ d0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) · posted

          Agreed, it's makes the S.Degreaser proud.

          Avatar ★ Cor · posted

            1.1=7.77

            1.2=8.44

            1.14=8

            Range encompasses the majority of my sales, but rozsef pointed out that 1.2 still happens

            the 1 key sellers prove it does need to go down, but they go pretty fast

            no one is selling at 1.1, but 1.1.5-2 is just dumb, so its a median for the quicksells but consistent sellers at 1

            and yeah, i was informed in the last suggestion how dumb this suggestion is, the point being that i dont want all dis proof to go to waste its a difference, and I can prove it needs to go down

            Kringle hates going down, and I hate making it go down

            this is too long, I should stop here

            or not

            my last suggestion for the kringle had the same issue in the comments

            I changed the price by 2 scrap, and no one understood the point

            your hi5 suggestion was closed because the pricing terminology didnt shift from the last suggestion to yours, not because of how useful the change was

            I appreciate the links and help though

            Avatar ★ Kevin the Chicken God · modified

              If you would value 1.1 as 1key + 1ref when the key:metal rate is at 1:7 it would be really confusing..


              So all 1.8 & 1.9 prices would be what? since 1.7 is 2keys in that case and 1.8 is 2keys + 1ref.. Kinda see the problem? :P

              Avatar ★ d0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) · posted

                I didnt say 1.1 is 1 key+1 ref tho, its 1.14, which this range encompasses

                1.1 is commonly used as 1 key 1 ref though

                Im using your hi5 suggestion as a precedent

                Avatar ★ Kevin the Chicken God · posted

                  Also, you don't make any sense at all..


                  You say 1.14 = 8ref / 1key + 1ref but you still have your links listed at 1.1 when they say 1key + 1ref... You clearly don't understand the rules - I'd suggest you read them.

                  Avatar ★ d0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) · posted

                    oh, I must've deleted that comment

                    I had put there that by 1.1 I meant 1 key 1 ref, I was just too lazy to replace them all

                    Trust me, after over a hundred suggestions Ive read the rules once or twice :3

                    Avatar ★ Kevin the Chicken God · posted

                      OK - well yeah that's why I reply, cuz I don't think you're a troll.


                      I just hope you realize the problem caused with all the decimals. GL ^^

                      Avatar ★ d0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) · posted

                        yeah, I do, 7 as a key price is a weird split

                        I appreciate the advice, you're probably the best to give it to me with the experience you've had in these situations

                        Imma ride this one out for a bit, but if it looks like its going downhill i wont make any other kringle suggestions for a bit

                        Avatar ★ Kevin the Chicken God · posted

              1 key 1 ref is NOT 1.1

              1 key 0.66 is 1.1

              Woifi agrees with me

              Woifi, on 08 Jan 2014 - 1:06 PM, said:

              If people use 1.1 as 1 ref, they should buy my keys for 10 ref.

              Avatar ★ puddingkip · posted

                you should read all the comments before posting

                Avatar ★ Kevin the Chicken God · posted

                  I read them, I still completely disagree with 1 key 1 ref being 1.1 keys

                  Avatar ★ puddingkip · posted

                    1.1=7.77

                    1.2=8.44

                    1.14=8

                    oh, I must've deleted that comment

                    I had put there that by 1.1 I meant 1 key 1 ref, I was just too lazy to replace them all

                    1.1 is commonly used as 1 key 1 ref though

                    I said all that in the discussion with d0, I can elaborate if you wish

                    Avatar ★ Kevin the Chicken God · posted

                      It's only the matter if opinions. So back then when .2 was supposed to = 1 ref when 6 ref was established, does that mean .2 x 5 = 5 ref only? No. It is simply placeholders by rough estimate.

                      Avatar ★ KoDoRiN · posted