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Strange Festive Übersaw
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Price of the Strange Festive Ubersaw should increase slightly. Evidence/Proof posted below. I will close this suggestion if there are too many disagreements.


Backpack.tf Classifieds

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/520152abba25361b0b000006


None for 4 Keys and cheapest is at 4.5 Keys


Some Trades on Outpost


Some Offers and Sellers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15471970 - Buyer for 5 Keys, 1 Week ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17157843 - Sold for 5 Keys?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17139900 - Offer of 4 Keys and 4 Refined (Approx. 4.57 Keys) and 4 Keys and 6 Refined (Approx. 4.86 Keys), 5 Days and 3 Days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17259114 - Willing buyer for 4.5 Keys, 15 Hours ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17208447 - Sold for 4.5 Keys?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16543635 - Offer of 4 Keys and 3 Refined (Approx. 4.4 Keys), 1 Day ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17039721 - Offer of 4 Keys and 3 Refined (Approx. 4.4 Keys), 1 Day ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16981628 - Rejected two offers of 4 Keys, 4 and 2 Days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16993949 - Rejected offer of 4 Keys, 2 Days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17170165 - Rejected offer of 4 Keys, 2 Days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16919841 - Rejected offer of 4 Keys, 3 Days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16881225 - Rejected offer of 4 Keys, 5 Days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10102657 - Rejected offer of 4 Keys, 1 Week ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11501243 - Rejected offer of 4 Keys, 1 Week ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16209307 - Rejected offer of 4 Keys, 1 Week ago


Some Quicksells

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17252100 - Sold for 4 keys within 1 day of posting

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17276908 - Sold for 4 keys within an hour of posting


Some Buyers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17277901 - 5 Keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17153350 - 4 Keys and 3 Refined (Approx. 4.43 Keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17249555 - 4.19 Keys with no interested sellers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17191949 - 4 Keys with no interested sellers, 3 Days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17193430 - 4 Keys with no interested sellers, 3 Days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16642956 - 4 Keys with no interested sellers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17279029 - 4 Keys with no interested sellers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14906894 - 4 Keys with no interested sellers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17207571 - 4 Keys with no interested sellers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17247226 - 4 Keys with no interested sellers

    The range. My eyes. I'm blind.


    More quicksolds at 4 needed, more solds at 4.5 needed

      I was orginially thinking of just a flat 4.5 Keys and as the range of 4.4-4.5 Keys may not seem one of the best, 4 Keys is clearly a quicksell and very rare to obtain. My evidence mainly shows offers and some sales at or above 4.4 Keys.

      Dat range.

        lolz, dat range xD

          What's so funny about the range? As already explained above, my evidence mainly shows offers and some sales at or above 4.4 Keys, but not quite enough to have a flat 4.5 Key price unfortunately.

            I know, its just funny to look at the 0.1 diff.

              I guess, but that 0.77 Refined can matter! :D

          Another Quicksell

          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17253166 - Sold for 4 Keys and 3 Refined (Approx. 4.4 Keys) within less than a day

          I bought my one around 2 weeks ago for something like 12-13 keys in collectors items (odd level vintages, strange festive wrangler etc.), and getting it for less than 4.5 is close to impossible. I know that i overpaid, but i dont care because i got nice weapon :)

          upvote

            Thanks for your input, extra evidence and your upvote :)

                There's one in the classifieds for 4 keys at the time of this comment (just sayin).

                  There currently is, but considering how quickly other Strange Festive Ubersaws sold at or even above 4 Keys, I would say it will get sold quite quickly. Let's see how that goes, the user posted their item at approximately 6AM AEST.

                Y'all gotta stop worrying about the range XD At least it is accurately. Personally, I bought mine for a seller who sold several at 4 keys and 4 ref.

                  15 hours unsold at 4+4, dropping to 4.3, sold in 30 minutes


                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17324633


                  This was 5 min ago.

                    Another example of a quicksell, it sold for Approx. 4.43 Keys (Which is in my suggested range) within less than a day and within 10 views of the trade. Thanks for the extra evidence :)

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17311214 I just bought one at around 4.3

                      Thanks for your extra evidence :)

                      I'm not actually seeing much proof of solds here.


                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17400663 - here's a current seller at 4.3 keys


                      Also, selling in a day is not a quicksell by itself. The range should be defined primarily by how often an item sells at a price, not necessarily how fast. Stranges tend to send quickly.

                        As you can see, the seller that you linked me to does not have auto bump, and so is less visible to the community of Outpost, does not bump their trade manually often (last bump was 5 hours ago) and has less than 30 views on their trade. It is quite difficult to successfully sell items without being on the first few pages of the item search.


                        With the your quote about quicksells, many and nearly all of them I have posted on this suggestion were sold under, at or in-between my suggested price within hours of their posting. Not to mention, with less than 50 views each.


                        Here is another Strange Festive Ubersaw that sold fairly quickly for above the current low price of this item. It sold for 4 Keys and 2 Refined (Approximately 4.3 Keys) within less than two hours of posting and less than twenty views. Under that, an offer of 4 Keys and 1 Refined (Approximately 4.14 Keys) was posted.


                        Tf2 Outpost Link - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17409889


                        If 4.4-4.5 Keys maybe not be the perfect range, perhaps a lower one can be appointed under your recommendation. As clearly, 4 Keys sells too quickly and many above that have been easily sold.


                        Thanks for your opinion and I appreciate if you did not close my suggestion before you notify me and give me your recommendation.

                          Eh, the really important piece here is the number of buyers at 4 keys. 4 keys obviously shouldn't be in the range. My issue here isn't to argue whether 4 keys should be in the range. My point is that it seems like there isn't enough for your suggested range. Perhaps it should be 4.3-4.4 instead of your suggested range. I can't really tell because you don't really have many completed sales.


                          All of these links you provide are not helpful:

                          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16993949 - Rejected offer of 4 Keys, 2 Days ago

                          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17170165 - Rejected offer of 4 Keys, 2 Days ago

                          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16919841 - Rejected offer of 4 Keys, 3 Days ago

                          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16881225 - Rejected offer of 4 Keys, 5 Days ago

                          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10102657 - Rejected offer of 4 Keys, 1 Week ago

                          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11501243 - Rejected offer of 4 Keys, 1 Week ago

                          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16209307 - Rejected offer of 4 Keys, 1 Week ago


                          All of them show people getting a high offer of 4 keys after a week of selling? That would tend to disprove your range as items like this should be selling sooner than that. But a lot of those are underbumped trades.

                            Well, it's good that we've come to an agreement of 4 Keys not being in the range, and my links that you stated are not helpful are to provide evidence that sellers are not accepting offers as low as 4 Keys for their Strange Festive Ubersaw. With that many rejected offers of 4 Keys and failed buyers at 4 Keys, its easy to distinguish that 4 Keys should definitely be out of the range.


                            I have provided five links supporting that this item has and does sell for my suggested range, a couple of buyers purchasing the item in my suggested range and multiple links that the item can sell for even more. As for your suggested range of 4.3-4.4 Keys, we can confirm that 4.4 Keys is quite possible, but there is not much evidence for 4.3 Keys.


                            I have gathered a couple more links to further support that the price should be higher.


                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17139900 - May be hard to tell, but perhaps he has sold 3 for 4.86 Keys?

                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17274950 - At least one buyer for 5 Keys, 2 Days ago


                            Thanks again for your opinion, I would like to hear what else you have to say :)

                              I have just re-checked the links I posted which sellers have rejected offers of 4 Keys and I have found that they have received offers higher and/or sold for a higher price.


                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16209307 - Interested buyer for 5 Keys, 2 Days ago

                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16881225 - Sold for 5 Keys?

                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16993949 - Offer of 4 Keys and 4 Refined (Approximately 4.57 Keys), 6 Days ago


                              Even more evidence to raise the price.

                                Considering this suggestion has been opened for nearly a week, it has surprised me. I was not aware that this suggest would be opened for this long and so did not think it would conflict with any of my schedules. Since it has, it will be very difficult for me to respond to any more replies and may take longer than usual since I will be away for a few days. As usual, I will try my best to respond to all replies and/or suggestions in relation to this suggestion.


                                Thanks blind polar bear and for everyone has that has upvoted and supported this suggestion. I hope for the best! :)