Suggestion: Vintage Whiskered Gentleman at 1 key

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~40.56 ref

89 votes up

19 votes down

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This suggestion was accepted Tue, 21 Jan 14 17:40:36 +0000 by Puddilicious.

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PROOF FROM JESUS SUGGESTION

Sellers below 1.3 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17035585 -1.2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16628433 -1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16998442 -1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16859296 -1

My counter-arguments

I believe that your (Jesus - 1 - 1.3 Key suggestion) proof does suggest 1 Key flat.

Why?

- Link 1 - best offer in 3 weeks (A 1:1 with an Uncraftable High 5 Taunt (worth 1 Key))

- Link 2 - Unsold for 4 Weeks; 1 Key

- Link 3 - Unsold for 1 Week; 1 Key

- Link 4 - Unsold for 3 Weeks; Trade owner accepted 1:1 with an uncraftable high 5 taunt - but buyer had already managed to buy that product with the same offer to another trader

Is a conservative drop better? I'd actually have to down vote - I feel that 1.2 Keys is an outlier in this case.

Link 4 is what swayed me towards a 1 key flat mark (1 potential offer and 1 potential sale at the price of an item values at 1 Key)

As far as the mods and the community - I feel that 3 unsolds at 1 Key far outweighs 1 unsold at 1.2 Keys. Don't you usually take the lowest value for unsolds?

You are also suggesting 1.3 Keys - which isn't in your range of unsolds.

Anyway - will be back in 12 hours or so. If this suggestion is still up, and no better proof / newer suggestion has been made - I'll suggest 1 Key flat. I have a feeling you'll make a newer one(Hope that I am rignt) :)

More Proof

~~- http://bazaar.tf/trade/649229 - UNSOLD AT 1 Key; 1 Day Ago; Offered 5.66 Ref (Quick Buyer Offer of 5.66 Ref?)~~ EDIT (Thanks to Nightfirecat): SOLD (1 Key / 5.66 Ref?)

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17385703 - UNSOLD AT 1.3 Keys; 1 Day Ago

Check the item history; the bazaar.tf link is actually sold.

Thanks for that clarification; However - not sure whether if it was for 1 Key / the quick buyers offer for 5.66 Ref; I'll try and confirm with the trade owner

Man, let Jesus be. All that uncraftable shit is not worth the hassle.

Well

- I have 3 suggestions accepted

- Jesus has 230 suggestions accepted

1 suggestion would make a huge difference to me : 2 More to Yellow Belt :)

Doesn't matter if you're a white belt or Pyroman, repwhoring is what repwhoring is

I presented my case in your suggestion ( http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52ddf4de4cd7b8845d8b4568 ) and said that 1 Key flat would be better.

Your reply "You do realise mods prefer conservative drops?"

I further argued my case - that 3 Unsolds at 1 Key; 1 Unsold at 1.2 Keys; No proof shown of unsolds at 1.3 Keys or the reason it was included in the range;

I did wait an hour to see whether you thought my suggestion was feasible before making this one; I thought you would pick up on it - However, when it seemed that you believed that your suggestion was accurate - I made this one

Actually this is more of a counter-suggestion since he does have his own links.

The majority of proof is from Jesus suggestion; I don't usually do this; however - I believe I made my point very clear on the 1 - 1.3 Key suggestion, and waited a bit thinking Jesus would suggest 1 Key flat.

Jesus comment - "You do realise mods prefer conservative drops?" was the primary motivation to make this; Moderators / Admins make decisions on proof presented. Sometimes conservative drops are needed. In my opinion - It is best not to guess how Moderators think - and rather - make suggestions based on the proof compiled.

My view is that - if there are unsolds at 1 Key - then shy should 1.3 Keys be in the range. I am in support of conservative drops - however, in this case, Jesus presented clear proof for 1 Key, yet chose to ignore that proof.

In brief: 3 Unsolds at 1 Key (One was painted Team Spirit); 1 Unsold at 1.2 Keys; No proof shown of unsolds at 1.3 Keys or the reason it was included in the range; I raised these points. This is a counter suggestion. I believe the price should be 1 Key; Jesus believes it should be a range of 1 Key - 1.3 Keys; Let's see what the community and Admins decide

Note: Hugh Jazz Mann - I guess this is more targeted towards Jesus. At the end of the day - you don't get recognised for taking the time to provide strong counter links

- http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52dc787a4cd7b8db328b456b

- http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52da70644cd7b8d9478b4568

- http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52d38acb4dd7b80d0b8b4568

You do get recognised for successful counter suggestions - Wish things were different :)

I'm inclined to agree with this, particularly since the only sold I could find via trade.tf was at 1 key: http://bazaar.tf/trade/649229

More Whiskered Gentleman Trades - Thanks to Woifi

Trader - The Baconator - Nice cross trade :) - 1 Week back - Tried various offers to a number of traders

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17237586 ; Item Sale - Traded "a dirty highfive (worth 1 Key) taunt for the whiskered"

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17269808; Traded a Dogfighter for a Vintage Whiskered Gentleman; Trader must have thought 1.4 Key item in exchange for 1.3 Key Vintage Hat / Face ; Must have thought - Can't be that bad... Must be easier to sell than the DogFighter :)

JUST BOUGHT FROM ONE OF THE LINKS FOR 7.22 REF

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16628433 - BOUGHT - UNSOLD FOR 4 WEEKS; Painted Team Spirit (Paint = 1 Key)

Proof of 7.22 Ref sale: http://puu.sh/6sHPv

Proof of Team Spirit Paint: http://puu.sh/6sHZo

NOTE: Put it up for sale at 2 Keys - Let's see how things go :)