Suggestion: A Distinctive Lack of Hue at 1.6–2 keys

Selling =/= Sold, so why put up a whole list of sellers who aren't )(excluding some) successfully selling at a higher price? You also have duped links.

seems like black and white paint are going to be 2 keys again

good proof, [b]upvote[/]

you forgot the b in [/]

nice proof, good range

upboat

Thank you for counter suggesting ;)

2 keys sells fairly regularly for both white and black. I did manage to buy 5 white and 1 black for 8 keys total (1.33 keys each) but that was a bulk deal.

Unsolds @ 2 keys:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16709539[/url] 3 weeks

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17365189[/url] 2 days

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17122954[/url] 1 week (4 still for sale)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12864529[/url] 4 months from last sale

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17122405[/url] 1 week

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17044224[/url] 2 weeks

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17091827[/url] 1 week

I found all of this on page 1 of outpost. Staying neutral, because you seem to have a crap ton of proof.

This is why I kept 1.6 keys in the range.

Also the 4 month sale is invalid as it is too old.

If he bumps regularly and had the trade up for a long time at the same price as these younger trades have it, why is his trade less valid than other trades?

Because not everyone says "Added for x paint" when actually purchasing a paint. The majority will just add the person w/o commenting.

First trade is not unsold.

Second trade is not unsold.

Third link has several people saying added for black paint.

Fourth link is not unsold.

Etc etc etc

the links you posted are PAINT SHOPS. Paint shops always look unsold, because they obviously have more than one in stock. These do not count as unsolds, and are not valid counterproof.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17055239

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16837902

My page outpost, I have selled many black paints for 2keys

not sure, its been really hard for me to sell at 2. ive sold 1 in like a week total(used a bazaar bot, and now outpost)

upvoted sold mine for 1 key and 6 ref

2 Keys seems a little high with barely any proof of succesful sales at 2 keys. Downvote, range should be something like 1.7-1.8, this current range is too large, with 1.6 being quick sells and 2 being overpay

Barely any 2 key proof?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17201561

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17251376

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17238826

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17014116

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17326501

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17239715

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17290919

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17162441

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17228737

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17217875

The problem is that OP is notoriously slow on updating item history. If you look in their backpacks the paint isn't there. Also I expect that most of the 2 key proof in the "selling" section is sold (or have at least a few sold).

EVEN a SCREENSHOT: http://i.imgur.com/KUaEZNj.jpg

I think I will stay neutral for now, black and white paint both have issues selling at 2 keys.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17055239

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16837902

My page outpost, I have selled many black paints for 2keys

Selling=/=sold. You're trying to increase the price, so you don't need links of higher price sellers. Upvoted anywasys.

If you look closely you will find that I have included 2 key solds.

The only problem is that OP is notoriously slow on updating item history.

Yes I realize that. I am pointing out that he is including a non sold sells which isn't neccessary.

wut? An non-sold sells? What do you mean? They are all sold- check their backpacks...

Forgive me for my grammar, but, I was intending to say that sellers at higher prices, (who haven't sold theirs yet) are not proof. Also, you have pointed out that they have sold, according to their inventory, but that is not solid evidence. He may have sold it to non outpost users for lower price(we never know).

this is his sold section:

Sold:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17217875 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17252478 1 key 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17255139 1 key 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17250503 1 key 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17250483 1 key 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17247572 1 key 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17234783 1.6 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17252338 1.6 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17247982 1.6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17251376 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17238826 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17014116 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17326501 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17239715 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17290919 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17162441 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17228737 2 keys

(yes this is copy and pasted)

eh, works for me. hell i think i got some anyways lol. upvote.

http://imgur.com/jTWwuWJ

Lots of proof :D been trying to buy one for 1.6 lately. been such a pain x_x Upvote

neih it's still far from two keys ... I own a bunch of these black/white paints and I can't get any offers in 2 keys pure

downvote

Why do you think I kept 1.6 in the range...?

well yeah i do occasionally get the 1key + 3-4 ref offers, but DEFINITELY NOT 2keys yet.

Just cuz you're not very good at selling your paint does not mean 2 keys doesn't sell fairly regularly.

that's what's wrong with this community, the concept of offer vs demand is totally alienated!

how many buyers you've got there @ 2keys? ONLY ONE from one website, now considering the number of trades occurring on tf2 .. well that's a lame joke setting the range @ 2keys.

Just because you, 1 seller out of thousands, didn't get a buyer for 2 keys after 2 days is not a good reason to downvote based on your own 1 trade. As you can see he provided proof of 2 keys happening.

ok let me explain it to you people again:

there's a low demand on this item (i can tell from the number of views)

and nobody is offering two keys

opening a trade to sell it for 2 keys is not a proof that the current price is 2keys!

common sense is almost absent around here!

1 The tfeconomy is wierd and eratic.

2. Here opinions and common sense don't work.

3. Sales at 2 keys is proof that you can sell at 2 keys

it 's an economy full of underaged ofc it's weird

no open trade for people who are bidding 2keys and somehow the price jumps to the 2 keys range

in tf2 if demand decreases, price increases!

actually the suggested price is 1.6 going up near 2 keys so this doen't mean it's already really at 2 keys