Suggestion: Ellis' Cap at 1.11 ref

Price Suggestion

Ellis' Cap

Submitted Thu, 23 Jan 14 07:11:42 +0000 by ★ Terminus

46.93%

1–1.11 ref

1.11 ref

~1.33 ref

107 votes up

121 votes down

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This suggestion was closed Thu, 23 Jan 14 20:19:10 +0000 by neverclever.

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Ellis Cap - 1.11 Ref Flat

"Gentlemen, I had your curiosity, but now I have your attention"

Proof provided in Current 1 Ref Suggestion

( http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52db7ccb4dd7b82b438b4568 ) ; Credit goes to Mr.Giang , Jommeke , [KSK]~TheSoup02 , Lucky_Se7ens , and a number of others :)

The best Defense is a good Offense

I'll start with the logic first

- Mass Buyers at 1 Ref: 1 Ref is easy to sell at: 1 Ref becomes a quick sell

- Sales at 1.11 Ref: Successful sellers at 1.11 Ref

SOLD AT 1.11 REF

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17286905

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17206787

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17158007

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17305366 ; Mass seller at 1.11 Ref - SOLD 6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17244950

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17352314

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17348912

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17341837

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17319599

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17296612 ; Mass Seller at 1.11 Ref; Sold 3 Caps

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17344469

http://imgur.com/PZUl80Q

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17117766 ; Mass Seller at 1.11 Ref; Sold 41

http://imgur.com/kyvYJvo ; SOLD 2

http://imgur.com/Xouindj ; SOLD 1

http://imgur.com/mhfPcjk ; SOLD 5

http://imgur.com/ic10qCg ; SOLD 7

http://imgur.com/CIhg67P ; SOLD 2

http://imgur.com/H5r8mg1 ; SOLD 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17459511

QUICK / MASS BUYERS AT 1 REF

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17379240

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9009485

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17365631

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14379798

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17299134

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17164458

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17234268

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17457460

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17296586

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17331103

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/856527

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17431166

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17183818

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8816897

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6425980

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16221506

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17203775

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17458136

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17460536

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17217255

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17234268

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14377383

QUICKSELLS AT 1 REF - LAST 1 HOUR

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17460862

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17460120

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17458468

- Plenty more

MASS BUYERS AT OVER 1 REF

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17442414 - 1 REF + 1 WEAPON

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3385686 - 1.11 REF

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17217724 - 1.11 REF

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7418637 - 1.22 REF

Why? ~~Because you own one?~~

1 ref is still happening, based on your proof (and the proof in the other suggestion).

I guess I'll just stay neutral, both suggestions suggest (heh) that the current range is still valid.

UPDATED - QUICK / MASS BUYERS AT OVER 1 REF (New Links from Mr.Giang)

All the links provided are actively bumped unless stated otherwise

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17442414 - 1 REF + 1 WEAPON

~~- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3385686 - 1.11 REF~~; Thanks to d0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) for spotting this (Auto-Bumped Trade) : "The buyer @ 1.11 is offline since 14days ago - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198045665306 "

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17217724 - 1.11 REF

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17174295 - 1.11 REF

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17437996 - 1.11 REF

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17305193 - 1.11 REF

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17360628 - 1.11 REF (Not updated for 2 Days)

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7418637 - 1.22 REF

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17458881 - 1.22 REF

too many sells at 1 ref for it to be a quicksell; quicksells aren't only determined by time. price is a factor also

Ít seems that both 1 ref and 1,11 ref are happening, therfore range is just fine and there's no need of a change. I'm neutral on both the suggestions though.

The buyer @ 1.11 is offline since 14days ago - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198045665306

If you can provide with some 1.11 buyers I might upvote - neutral for now.

Also provide with quicksales at 1ref (and add time) would be nice too.

Just a quick question - Wouldn't evidence of successful Mass Buyers at 1 Ref be better than Indivdual quick sells at 1 Ref? or do I still need to provide quick sells? Thanks

you just showed that 1 ref happens, and it doesnt seem to be rare for it to happen. why would we exclude it from the price then

Plenty of quick / mass buyers at 1 Ref - does that constitute a quick sell price?

Successful sellers at 1.11 Ref

i could put a trade up to quickbuy for example s.jags for 3 ref each. and then buy everything just because i know i can get 3.33 ref for them. doesnt mean its valid as a priceraiser. just means people see profit in it, but they arent fast enough to buy the stock available at 1 ref.

This reminds me of the 7.11-7.22 key suggestion.

"Too many sales happening at 7 so it can't be removed from the range."

Same thing here. 1 ref happens a lot, you can't simply ignore it.

I understand - Just my reasoning - Plenty of Quick / Mass Buyers at 1 Ref - Not sure whether that constitutes as a quick sell; Sales at 1.11 Ref and even a couple of quick buyers at that price

It would be a quicksell if there weren't as many sales happening at 1 refined. 1.11 happens, no doubt, and quite oftenly too.

Lots at 1, lots at 1.11. 1-1.11 would be the most accurate range, which is the current range.

My initial thoughts - the current range is fine, sales at 1 Ref and Sales at 1.11 Ref; However - quick buyers at 1 Ref, and a couple at 1.11 Ref - and some of them not getting sales recently - has changed my mind a bit :)

Either way - Let's see how things progress; Thanks for your feedback :)

But the 7 refs was removed from the range.

I thought what this suggestion will get accepted, so upvote this, and change my upvote for the other suggestion to a downvote.

Yeah, the suggestion tried to remove 7 ref but it couldn't because of an abundance of sales at 7.

This suggestion is trying to remove 1 ref but it can't because of the abundance of sales at 1.

~~Upvote because I have a 1.11 Ellis Cap shop~~

As a Ellis Cap provider, I have to say this hat is so easy to sell in bulk for 1.11. Sold 41 of them :P (As he listed there)

Upvote!

Anyway, more support proof:

Buyer at 1.11 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17458881 - "ANY CRAFT HATS and yep, I sold one 1 Cap to him"

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17437996 - (Same here)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17174295 - (Sold a lot to him)

Thanks for the extra proof and the the counter links provided in the current 1 Ref suggestion. Didn't want to use generic buyers who said "Buying any craft hat for 1.11 Ref" as I wasn't sure whether they would be taking Ellis Caps.

An updated list.........

UPDATED - MASS BUYERS AT OVER 1 REF (New Links from Mr.Giang)

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17442414 - 1 REF + 1 WEAPON

~~- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3385686 - 1.11 REF~~ Thanks to d0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) for spotting this (Auto-Bumped Trade) : "The buyer @ 1.11 is offline since 14days ago - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198045665306 "

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17217724 - 1.11 REF

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17174295 - 1.11 REF

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17437996 - 1.11 REF

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7418637 - 1.22 REF

- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17458881 - 1.22 REF

Majority of your 1 ref buyers are successful, current range looks fine.