Suggestion: Sunbeams Ze Goggles at 58.5–72.15 keys

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~97 keys

sunbeams

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This suggestion was accepted Sat, 25 Jan 14 20:38:57 +0000 by polar.

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[Proof below]

3 months old price

Overpay applied

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16901345

-sold for 56 keys (~3)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16126567

-sold for bud + max's (~3.3)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16762103

-sold for ghosts tree (~3.7)

-goggles was offered

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15707280

-sold for flies modest (~3.7)

First link sold pretty fast, and had the offer before the trade was closed...so iunno. Maybe it's an Outlier

And 56 keys is 2.87 buds (~2.9), not 3

5 days isn't that fast to be considered a quicksell.. also 3 should be in the range due to the b/o's on the market.

2.9 can be rounded to 3 btw

Range should be 2.9-3.3

2 on Outpost looking for 3.2 and 3.3 buds, and no, you can't round 2.9 to 3 buds, since that's basically different price

I've never understood this. 2 sales at 3.7, and 3.7 isn't in the range? You're basically ignoring half of the proof.

It's not my fault people are selling for less than they can sell for. I'm not ignoring anything.

You're suggesting that the range should be 2.9-3.3. That is ignoring the two 3.7 sales completely.

Two B/Os within the range don't really mean that higher sales can be thrown out, that'd be stupid and it's something I'd expect from the white belts, not you.

--Just a note: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17444012

Offered Terror Watt Bakers (2.7) + Steaming Maurauder's (1). However, the Maurauder's is old, so this is invalid proof. However, it certainly proves that the range goes beyond 3.3.

Are you accusing me of not knowing what I'm doing?

This has happened before, with offers and sales higher than what people want

And it works out the same every time: Can't have a price more than what people want

You can also ask a mod or admin about this instead of arguing with me about it.

Take it as you wish, my friend. When half of the sales say 3.7 is a valid price, why the hell would you ignore it?

Also, I've made suggestions for unusuals before, oh all knowing Python, and I've dealt with this before. When half of the sales are above the B/O, that does prove that the hat can sell for more. Remember, bp.tf lists what the hats can sell for, not what one or two individuals are looking for. One person does not set the market. I believe you've spewed this on other suggestions yourself.

For example, my first unusual suggestion was like this. One 2.3 sale, two 3 bud sales, and a 2.8 B/O. Price was set at 2.3 - 3, because thats what the SALES proved. Sales are key here, and B/Os are not solid.

This is like saying that if I decided to put my Ten Gallon up for sale for 2.5 buds, the price would instantly drop from 2.3-2.8 to 2.3-2.5, because of me, one seller.

So when people are asking 3.3 buds, they'll obviously sell for more than 3.3 buds

That's also half of the market. Are you ignoring half the market?

No, I am not ignoring half the market. Those trades fall right into the middle of the suggested range (and they are also not sold). If they sold for that (or even a bit less than that, at say 3 buds), the range would still be accurate.

However, taking out the two 3.7 trades makes the range inaccurate. It's been proven multiple times that 3.7 is a valid price, not putting it in the range would not make any sense, and make the range inaccurate.

Also, that was an example, of course it doesn't happen all the time. It's just possible, I've had it happen before, and I've seen it happen to others as well. People also change their B/Os (I know it's a hard concept, but trade notes CAN be changed).

" you can't round 2.9 to 3 buds" Yes you can, even some of the admins advise you to round. I've done plenty suggestions that passed where I rounded.

Oh, so what does 2.7 round to? 3 buds?

Things like 2.87 can be rounded to 2.9, but 2.9 shouldn't be rounded to 3 buds. It's technically an invalid range

You can round 2.9-3. I've done that lots of times.

Well now all those unusuals have invalid ranges ^^

The offer was made 3 days after the trade was put up. He accepted the offer, so shouldn't it be counted as a 3 day sale?