Suggestion: The Sub Zero Suit at 1.4–1.6 keys

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~8.72 ref

1101 votes up

170 votes down

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This suggestion was closed Fri, 31 Jan 14 17:52:55 +0000 by A Distinctive Lack of Vincent.

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7 ref is 1 key nowadays...time sure flies.

1.43 - 1 key + 3.00 ref

1.5 - 1 key + 4.00 ref

1.6 - 1 key + 4.22 ref

1.7 - 1 key + 5.00 ref

1.8 - 1 key + 5.66 ref

Sold under/within its range:-

(1.0) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17596155[/url] - truly a quickseller.

(1.5) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17584568[/url] - Sold

(1.5) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17565279[/url] - Received alot of adds.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17473957[/url] - sorry but I can't tell how much did he sold for, either an overpay or in pure offers.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17556490[/url] - Sold within item offers, checked their backpack.

Unsold within a range:-

(1.7) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17549594[/url] - 2 days old.

(1.7) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17544559[/url] - 2 days old.

(1.7) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17596413[/url]

(1.7) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17591397[/url]

(1.7) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17602179[/url]

(1.7) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17543085[/url] - 2 days old, got an offer for 1.5 but rejected.

(2.0) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17578093[/url] - lime painted.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17565744[/url] - 1 day old.

(2.0) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17459478[/url] - 6 days old; ask for offer (got an offer of 1 key + 4.66 ref) but then he asked 2 keys, I'm puzzled..nvm.

Selling under its range:-

(1.43) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17576544[/url] - Has an add, but they didn't respond somehow; 1 bookmarked.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17420995[/url] - Has 2 offers, 1 key + 4.66 pure (rejected somehow) and All-Father and dirty Bonk Helm (pending...)

(1.5) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17604159[/url]

(1.5) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17589158[/url]

(1.5) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17602745[/url]

(1.5) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17558065[/url] - inactive traders; offline for 2 days but has an add thou..

Buyers:-

(1.29) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17217728[/url] - Successful buyers at 9 ref

(1.33) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17301831[/url] - Bought 1

(1.86) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17604788[/url] - Only buying as a set; I did the math and he count the Sub-Zero as 1.86 keys or 1 key + 6 ref BUT HE ONLY BUY FOR THE SET

(2.0) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17223866[/url] - He offered 2 keys on items

(2.9) [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17605561[/url] - Buying for Strange Shotgun (2 keys) + Genuine Brigade Helm painted Purple (6.33) = 2 keys + 6.33 ref; he haven't bought it yet...so hurry up!

Classifieds: [url]http://i.imgur.com/eZkuXNc.png[/url] (29-1-2014)

1.0 key - (x1) - gold painted..literally a QUICKSELL. But I didn't see she sold it, seems odd..

1.5 keys - (x1)

1.8 keys - (x2)

2.0 keys - (x1)

Conclusion: Down the price it goes. Lot's of unsuccessful sellers within its range.

Forgive me for any duped links...or any English/Grammar errors.

Any feedback are appreciated, up to you...either support or counter my submission, it's in your hand.

Your proof makes a good case in your favor, Upvote!

thanks for the 2,9 link,i took that deal xD

anyhow a 1.5-1.7 would be better in my opinion

My pleasure, and yeah, I knew someone would take that reasonable offer! xd

good proof upvote, but isnt 1.55 keys --1 key 3.55 ref? if it were 1 key 4 ref, keys would be 8 ref

I did it with the help of [url]http://calculator.tf/[/url]

Sorry if the key price wasn't accurate as it should be.

Here's the statistic:-

1.51 keys = 10.57 ref / 1 key + 3.55 ref

1.55 keys = 10.85 ref / 1 key + 3.88 ref

And yeah, if keys were 8 ref, it would be 12 ref if 1 key + 4 ref.

*Apologies for any grammar or math error or misunderstanding...my mind was kinda jammed a bit somehow.

You just have 1 seller for 1.4 Keys. There are more proof for 1.5 flat. Downvote.

No sellers for 1.4 keys from what I can see listed in the proof. You need 1.4 key sellers for it to be in range

I have sold a few Sub Zeros on TF2 servers for 2 keys each. Down vote.

there's such a thing as outliers :P

I've sold 4 and onto selling 5 at 2 keys each at the current price of 1.6 keys-1.8 keys. So 4 almost 5 outliers? I'm confident that my sales aren't outliers.

alright maybe, but you're 1 person + the 4 people who bought from you :P that's not a good representation of the market

Yeah, if he sold many times the same item for the same price is a good representation.

But SPYBUG96 must provide screenshots, because is invalid the proof like "I sold x item for x price" without screenshots of the inventory history.

well so far he says he's sold 4 of them at 2keys each (and selling =/= sold so we can ignore the selling 5 right now) there's no indication if those 4 are recent, and again, 5 people (him being 1, 4 being the customers) aren't a good representation of the market... it's very minimal. how many people are there around trading this item? many more than 5 i'd bet. I do agree though, needs proof (screenshots, as you say)

also frankly if this price suggestion is such an issue, go make a counter suggestion (this is for spybug)

Well, I can say: There are +10000 Sub-Zero Suits, your proof just shows 30 Sub-Zero Suits, that isn't a good representation of the market...

ALL the sales/sellers/buyers are a representation of the market, minimal or not, are a representation.

ah spy's 5 does so much less than the suggester's 30 :P also yes, there are a lot, but you have to consider how many are actually being traded. the ones people are sitting on are ignored, the ones that are painted are ignored, etc. not everyone is on the market or valid (painted ones being invalid)

It does take me a long time to find a willing buyer only on trade servers who will buy a Sub Zero for 2 keys, but Sub Zeros have only been around for two months. So if I started selling them when they were worth two keys on January 4th that means I have sold about one every week (statistically speaking). I also agree with both you and Cryomancer7 that I need screen shots as proof, but I have never taken a screen shot of a trade so I don't have any, but next time I will.

As for making a counter suggestion I will not. I currently like the price range it gives me wiggle room to sell at 2 keys, but to buy for lower and make a profit.

check inventory history to get yourself a proof. and I dunno, but is a few week old sale still valid for this? (assuming you sold at least one a few weeks ago)

Also, for a somewhat expensive item at 1.6-1.8 keys, 2 days is not a very long time. If there were more unsuccessful sellers at 1.6-1.8 keys with trades that have been around for over a week or two then I would up vote, but for now I'm down voting.

I barley sold ffor 1.4 keys and it was up for 2 days -_-

Upvote

One seller at 1.4 keys just isn't enough to include in range.

Closing for insufficient evidence of low range