Suggestion: Gift Wrap at 0.9–1 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17774617 <-- just has one in the trade but check his backpack history. he had an extra in his bp yesterday and the day before meaning he sold two. Invalid

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17695541 <--- sold at least two. 12 in his bp yesterday 10 today.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17715828 sold at least 1 in a day.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17546890 sold at least two. again look at backpack history man

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17724898 sold at least one. look at backpack history

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17333786 sold at least 1. backpack history it

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14177282 sold at least 1 since yesterday. backpack history.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17292249 Sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17756257 sold at least 3 since yesterday. 3 or 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17363125 sold at least 1 since yesterday

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17687510 sold at least 2 since yesterday

im not checking their week history to see how many they sold and didnt sell. i will however check the rest. just posting this now so nobody does the same as i just did and waste their time

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17363705 sold at least 4 since yesterday

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17844034 sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17749617 sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17383501 sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17684697 sold TEN since yesterday

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17658303 sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17735715 sold two since yesterday

do i need to continue?

Lots of proof eh? well looks like nobody looked at the "proof"

everybody just sees links and votes.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13856894 sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17820160 repeat link. invalid

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17684824 posted twice in a row. Also he sold 6 since yesterday

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17691233 sold two of them since two days ago.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17554992 same trade as the big kill one. invalid.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17779361 sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17748934 not bumped in 5 days

From sellers/solds:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17685965 he is asking 1 key each.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17721572 relist of the link right above it.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17633692 states he is QUICKSELLING

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17247216 listed this twice 1 is invalid

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17594827 Quicksell?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17776331 Same one as the last link for the classifieds.

6 out of your 18 dont count here.

That concludes my helpful information.

Next time PLEASE check backpacks before saying they are unsold. The new feature on outpost lets people remove the item from trade once sold out but they can add it back if they get another making it harder to tell if it has sold or not. I know this because that is what I do.

You NEED to check backpack history to see what and how many were sold.

Take this as positive not me being a douche.

Cheers

I like to have proof of what price they sold at. Also:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17774617 - He sold 1, which is why I'm not taking it out of the range

same with http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17774617. I put them there to show how not all are sold, and how long it takes

And http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17695541, http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17715828, http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17546890. Them selling 1-2 doesn't mean 0.9 should be out of thhe range

Most of the ones you put up are right, but people are also selling for less, and not always buying for 1 key. And it doesn't make sense that you can gain by buying if for $1.99 and selling for a key, worth about $2.43.

You don't know that they are buying them for $1.99. As with keys some buy them on paypal for around $1.70 and sell them for full price for major profits. So you can't use this in your defense. Some people ,as myself, get them in trades as currency since they are worth 1 key and sell them for normal price. So you cannot use that to rule out what I am saying.

Ok. But I do know, because in some of the trades, they say so.

it has nothing to do with the market thing u need to focus on the sales of it that does nothing for you

Exactly. You put it into a more simple way than I could have.

And http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17633692 may be a quick sell, but no one is buying.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17778031

My trade of my QUICK BUYING. Only had ONE sale in 3 days. People don't like to sell them that cheap because they know that eventually it will sell. Especially if they market it the correct way. Gift wrap is one of those things that are almost used as a currency and every big trader or frequent trader buys and sells

I know, I'm not putting the price range that low.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17776331

and

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17721572 show that he isn't getting immediate buyers, like people should for that much less that backpack.tf price.

wow still trying ...

hey look i sold one for 1 key like 2 days ago ...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ba47b8ucjq8wco/Screen%20Shot%202014-02-09%20at%203.02.16%20PM.png

also the posts of mine in there have been sold and ive bought 5 bills hats with 6 gift wraps

one example:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wxknk967fw93x6g/Screen%20Shot%202014-02-09%20at%207.27.29%20PM.png

and you have used my post links in there :) so yea theres 2 more invalid

Further proves my point that gift wrap is used as currency sometimes.

So only 2 links for 6 ref and one is poorly bumped.

You got it.

I'm not trying to lower it to 6 ref, and the badly bumped one just means that people are SELLING it for that much.

I had suggested a price change on something. I only had 6-8 sellers at the low end price. My price suggestion was closed with these words (i am paraphrasing of course)

With such a minimal drop in on the low end I need more solid proof of sellers for the low end.

Although I had 7 sellers at the low end price and all were bought it was still closed. Im guessing yours will be as well as you have very very little proof of sellers at the low end.

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52d21bd24cd7b829418b456b

First: 6.55

Second, Third, Fourth: 6.66

Fifth: 6.88

And they haven't been bought yet, much less the 1 key ones.

Classified listings are not updated if people don't open their backpacks, so you can't know for sure if they sold it or not, you gotta check their backpack history.

http://puu.sh/6UUgl.png not this fucking shit again #nostalgia

These sell good at a key, alsway have and always will. Anything under a key is a quicksel.. Majority of your links is 6.66 which would make for 0.95-1 key, not 0.9 which would be 6.33 for which you have... 2 links. So only 2 links supporting low end, downvote

All of those (http://puu.sh/6UUgl.png) but the top one scored less than 70%, and all scored under 75%. Also, people say "quick sell" when they are doing so. Only one person did, as SH) {A} Dr. Bubbles said.

Yeah, there's controversy. But votes aren't correct all the time (p.s. top one is me :D) And 1 keys is by far still the most commonly traded price, and his math is incorrect

(was 2weeks ago)

Sold over 20 for 6.88 each, they went rather quick.. Current is fine - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17497317

I just looked through the first 5 unsolds....nnnnno

1st link: There was an "added"

2nd: He closed his trade and re-opened a new one with new items. He has multiple in his backpack with a convenient trade offer link right in the description, so he will most likely not gray out the gift wrap. Its similar to people selling robot parts, since they most likely have a bunch in stock. If you sell 1 part, you aren't gonna gray it out.

3rd: Its a bot. From the looks of its bp, it just got more supplies because he sold out.

4th: There are 2 clear-as-day "added"s

5th: Sold for a kringle collection (1 key) with possible sweets (he added to "discuss"), so possibley > 1 key

Downvote from me. 1 key flat is fine

Since many of your unsolds have actually sold

And ANYTHING below 1 key sells rather quick I'd say 1 key flat is the price

As I recall from Blind Polar Bear,

He said something like that (idea is identical, words might be a bit different):

There are always sellers below and above market price but the site's purpose is to represent the most commonly traded price

With that idea, 1 key is much much much much more common than 0.9 keys

108 proofs. GG. Upvote

You should actually try clicking on a link.

I checked like 15 of them.

Obviously not.

So you're saying there are less than 15 legitimate links in his proof?

Sold one in 4 minutes for 1 key.

Omfg half of your links are so broken it isn't even funny. Instant downvote. Do some research into all of your links instead of slamming them in and saying "NOT SOLD"

I unno it sell decently for 1 key

http://puu.sh/6XLh1.png

http://puu.sh/6XLi5.png

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http://puu.sh/6XLlq.png

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This is stillll open? My goodness.

Look at all the - on comments. Somebody isn't happy.

Seld for 5 ref http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13099651

That's 6 months old -_-

How did you even find this? o.O

most of your unsolds are sold or bulk sellers.

Most of the selling for under 1 key sell quite quickly

and most of the unsolds at 1 key ARE sold. They just buy and sell so many that the suggester failed to check the seller's backpack history day by day to see what was sold and how many.

I sold one minutes ago

http://puu.sh/6Z2l8.png

I'm selling 6 months (1 key each) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13030913

sold 3 in almost 2 days: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18008060

downvote, sorry

just sold my last one

0.85 keys ~ 6 ref - the quickbuyers price

0.9 keys ~ 6.33 ref - at least a few mass sellers here

0.95 keys ~ 6.66 ref - a lot of big gift wrap shops sell here

1 key ~ 7 ref - still happens quite frequently

Way too many sellers <1 key to ignore here. And enough availability at 6.33 ref, to justify including 0.9 keys in the range. Hard to go against the community vote here. 6 ref seems the true quickbuyers price. That would be 0.85 keys, and that is below the suggested range.

Mass sellers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17525144 - 6.33 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17821544 - 6.33 ref - recently out of stock

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17931512 - 6.44 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17463768 - 6.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17247216 - 6.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17666383 - 6.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18067028 - 6.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17841975 - 6.66 ref