Suggestion: Strange Part: Spies Killed at 3–3.33 ref

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Sup there!

So we need to get this down. 3 weeks ago last price update. 4 ref is not a proper price anymore.

It's my first suggestion, so I hope it will be fine.

Proof:

Classifieds:

3.11 - 6 hours ago, unsold

3.22 - 7 hours ago, unsold

3.22 - 21 hours ago, unsold

3.33 - 1 hour ago, unsold

3.44 - 4 days ago, unsold

3.66 - 5 hours ago, unsold

3.66 - 2 days ago, unsold

3.66 - 3 days ago, unsold

3.66 - 4 days ago, unsold

And many unsolds at 4 ref.

Outpost:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17879628 - 3 ref, unsold, 6 days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17692848 - 3 ref, unsold, 2 weeks ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17914323 - 3.66 - sold, 5 days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17998056 - 3.66 - unsold, 20 hours ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17879786 - 3.66 - unsold, 6 days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18007124 - 3.66 - unsold, 14 hours ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17984355 - 3.77 - unsold, 1 day ago

And TONS of unsolds at 4 ref for weeks.

So, to conclude, it seems that it's fairly easy to find it for 3.66, but it's still unsold for days. That's why 3-3.33 should be that range. #75 crates are regularly opened because they're quite new ones and therefore there will be more parts with the price going down.

Thanks for your attention!

Not really enough to support the range you have, maybe something more conservative such as 3.66 or 3.66-4 if you can find a few sales at 4.

Well, I thought that it's such a big down and conservative people will blame me for that. But I really can't see the point in making that sort of range if there're so many unsolds at 3.66.

But you only have, 2 links for your low end, and it appears they havent really been 3 ref for the full 6 days and 2 weeks possibly as the second link appears to have started out at 4 ref and moved down to 3 possibly recently.

And there could still be a point if some people successfully still sold for 4 ref, that's why you use trade.tf to hunt through and see if anyone still has sold any for 4 ref, need to taken all variables into consideration.

Well, I don't use trade.tf, cos there's a total mess due to trades from community market and all that stuff. You can provide proof if you disagree with mine.

You can sell strange parts on the SCM? You need more sellers at 3 refined to include it in range. Not our job to provide any proof, but we can tell you what you're missing and what you need. You need more sellers at 3 ref and more unsolds at 4 ref, as you don't have any currently. And you not using trade.tf isn't our problem, though it really helps

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Yes, you can.

I didn't include unsolds at 4 ref on purpose because there are really tons of them - just press search and open all the trades on 1st page on outpost. I can include them if it can make any sense. But If there is a LOT of unsolds at a lower price - 3.66, what's the point in showing 4 ref unsolds?

Trade.tf range is 3.66-3.88, it's not 4 ref. What is more, trade.tf shows you backpack.tf, outpost and SCM deals. I've included both classifieds and outpost proof.

It's not our job to look for proof, it's yours.

You say it's easy to find unsolds, then find them and past them here. Easy, right?

You didn't answer my question. "If there is a LOT of unsolds at a lower price - 3.66, what's the point in showing 4 ref unsolds? "

It's not a problem to find them if it's obligatory, but it seems to be illogical.

The rules state that you need to prove current price is no longer attainable. You're telling us to find that out ourselves, which isn't what you're supposed to do and it won't get accepted until you paste some links which isn't hard. You could have done that in the time you've been arguing with me

Well I've already found a bunch of counter-proof, asking if I can do a counter-suggestion atm. If I'm gonna do all the work, might as well make the suggestion myself.

Sorry, I didn't know that it's needed if there is a proof of unsolds at a lower price.

There is a counter-suggestion atm, however, I will include 4 ref unsolds though. Because, in my opinion, 3.66-4 is not a proper range. At least 3.33-3.66

Added unsolds, tried to show that there are pretty many of them.

As said, 2 links are really not enough to support your low end, considering they possibly could have been lowered recently.

Also if I were to hunt for sellers at 4 ref for you, I'd rather just make a counter-suggestion instead upon completion.

Use this link maybe? http://www.trade.tf/listings/search/Sell/Unique/Strange%20Part%3A%20Spies%20Killed/None/All/1

I've used it when Eldric Liaz asked to use trade.tf and haven't found anything interesting there actually.

So then, if you say you can't find anything, can I make a counter suggestion?

UNSOLDS AT 4 REF:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18016036 - 9 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18008792 - 16 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17975334 - 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17997793 - 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17963409 - 2 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17961257 - 2 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17899601 - 6 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17899992 - 6 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17835554 - 1 week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17869023 - 1 week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17723209 - 1 week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17792633 - 1 week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17729811 - 1 week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17565563 - 2 weeks

And it's only first 2 pages on outpost, regularly bumped ones.

Solds at 4 ref:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17972436

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17980359

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17997793

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17998054

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18003993

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18004734

Solds at 3.66:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17977701

All sold within the past 48 hours, looks like 4 ref is still obtainable, sorry.

Of course it will be possible to sell for 4 ref till there's a price on backpack.tf. But unsolds > solids.

If someone will buy that part for a key, it doesn't mean that the price should be 1 key.

Look at all unsolds at lower prices.

I'd like to see more proof for 3.33ref being the high end of your range :c

Lots of unsolds at 3.66 make 3.33 a good end. People try to sell it for 4 ref, but they can't. They can't sell even at 3.66 though.

Because there's many being unsold at 3.66 doesn't give it any justification of it being 3.33.

You need to show there's more being sold at 3.33 or many unsolds at 3.33.

Perhaps the item isn't in much demand, because of little interest, not high pricing.

I agree with the earlier argument that maybe a 3.66~4 ref would be a better choice for this.

Outpost:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17879628 - 3 ref Closed trade

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17692848 - 3 ref Ok, but 1 add

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17914323 - 3.66 Many adds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17998056 - 3.66 Only a day old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17879786 - 3.66 Ok

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18007124 - 3.66 Only a day old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17984355 - 3.77 Ok.

Here is the problem with your suggestion:

1.) You didn't provide 4 ref unsolds at the start. Please do that next time c:

2.) Counterproof shows that it CAN sell for 4 ref.

3.) NO links for 3.33 ref :/

4.) Mediocre unsold proof and maybe 1 valid 3 ref link

Lol. And maybe if u write a week later all my proof links will be closed.

At the moment of creating a suggestion all links were valid with no adds. Of course when I bump the item with creating such suggestion some people interested in that item will buy it via the links I provided.

5 offers at classifieds with range 3.11-3.44 which were unsold, although it supposed to be a quicksell. +2 unsolds on outpost for 3 ref for 2 weeks.

Of course you can say that it was poorly bumped, but I suppose that for a person interested in buying this part it wasn't that hard to find those trades with a 25% discount on this item as it wasn't hard for me to find these trades.

2 days passed. Some new proofs.

Classifieds:

3 ref - 15 hours, unsold (firstly put for 3.33, was unsuccessful at that price and dropped it, but still unsold)

3.11 - 1 day, unsold

3.22 - 2 days, unsold

3.33 - 2 hours, unsold

3.33 - 1 day, unsold

3.44 - 4 days, unsold

3.66 - 1 day, unsold

3.66 - 3 days, unsold

3.66 - 4 days, unsold

3.66 - 5 days, unsold.

They're all below the current 4 ref price, but still unsold for days.

Trade.tf gives average price 3.66 and average web sellers price 3.33

Outpost:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18030868 - 3.33, 1 day, unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18038611 - 3.33, 15 hours ago. Refused 3 ref offer

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18025452 - 3.66, 1 day, unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18031446 - 3.66, 21 hours, unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17984355 - 3.77, 2 day, unsold

And many unsolds at 4 ref, most trades are 4 ref unsolds.

What is more, when I was looking through trade.tf, the first 6-8 pages of trade.tf shows that solds go only in the range I'm suggesting - 3 - 3.33

Some links of solds:

http://www.trade.tf/trade/535483572 - 3 ref

http://www.trade.tf/trade/535446374 - 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18041401 - 3 ref

http://www.trade.tf/trade/535432170 - 3.66 ref

http://www.trade.tf/trade/535372451 - 4 ref

http://www.trade.tf/trade/535376390 - 1 key (lel)

That's all solds via backpack.tf and outpost during passed 2 days. So it's possible to sell for 3.66 and for 4 and even for 1 key, but mostly people can sell it only for 3 ref. However there are still unsolds at even 3-3.33 ref (proofs above).

http://www.trade.tf/trade/535373478 - 3 ref, unsold

Also, I would like to say that most of the solds are made on the steam market, where it goes for 0.5$ - 1$ in average which is equivalent to 1.88 - 3 ref.

Outpost:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18030868 - 3.33 Sold within a day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18038611 - 3.33 Only 17 hours old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18025452 - 3.66 Only 1 day old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18031446 - 3.66 1 day old/b]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17984355 - 3.77 [b]Ok

Some links of solds:

http://www.trade.tf/trade/535483572 Impossible to say how fast it sold

http://www.trade.tf/trade/535446374 Didnt sell

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18041401 Quicksold within 12 hours

http://www.trade.tf/trade/535432170 - Sold for 3.66 :/

http://www.trade.tf/trade/535372451 - 4 ref sold. You're counterproofing yourself :/

http://www.trade.tf/trade/535376390 - This is for offers. Please learn to use trade.tf

1. I suppose, it's how the items are supposed to be sold - within a day. It shows that demand=supply. You prefer unsolds for weeks?

2. You ignore classifieds on some purpose? Or you have nothing to say about it?

3. This proof of solds was taken from trade.tf just of the last 2 days. None others were sold. So it's been sold for 3 ref or it continues to be unsold.

4. I'm not counterproofing myself. If I hadn't use that 4ref sold, someone would say "OH GOD THERE IS A 4 REF SOLD HE HADNT MENTION, THE PRICE SHOULD BE STILL 4 REF". I tried to provide valid and honest proof of all solds, not only the ones i need for my suggestion. To sum up, if u're lucky enough, u still can sell it for 4 ref, but most solds were 3 ref ones.

1. They're quicksold because the price is good. People buy them for cheap so they can flip them for ref. The demand is for cheap shit.

2. Classifieds are hardly proof. Im not checking trough every classified seller to see if they still have it in their bp.

3. I don't understand what you're trying to say

4. You are showing 3.66 and 4 ref solds. That is counterproof....

1. They're not quicksold just cos it's not a quicksale as far as we have a plenty of 3 ref unsolds. Don't think of people only trying to make some profit. Think if they just do not find 4 ref as a reasonable price for that part.

What is more, personally, I don't think that buying that part for 3 ref is a profitable deal as far as it's price is dropping down atm and there're planty of unsolds at a higher than 3 ref price.

2. I've done all that work - checked if they still have it in their bp and only after that added that as a proof.

3. I meant that after this suggestion even not accepted, the price has already gone down. This suggestion is 2 days old, I found all the solds within last 2 days and they show that people sell it for 3 ref.

4. I don't find one 4 ref sold as a counterproof. What I was trying to say is that I tried to be honest in proof. Yeah, there is one 4 ref sold, but there are three 3 ref solds, which means that 4 ref sold was just a lucky one.

How is the 4 ref sold lucky when Eldric Liaz posted half a dozen? 4 ref is still a valid selling price. I don't understand why you can't accept the 3.66 and 4 ref solds. You are trying to disprove 3.66-4 and you haven't done that.

I'm not trying to disprove your suggestion, it's only you who is spamming in mine.

Eldric Liaz posted those solds 2 days ago, the market has already changed. 2 months ago it was sold for 5 ref and I don't care about that fact as well, you know.

I can accept 3.66 and 4 ref solds if u show me more than one of each, which I provided myself (which u've used in ur suggestion as well as the rest of your last proof(so nice of you))

I'm not trying to spam your suggestion. If you are going to reply to my comment, i'll reply back. 2 months ago is a long time but it hasn't changed that much in 26 hours.

http://i.imgur.com/s1a0hSx.jpg?2 Nuff Said.

Totally agree.

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