Suggestion: Burning Flames Milkman at 126.75–146.25 keys

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~130 keys

burning

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This suggestion was closed Mon, 24 Feb 14 05:55:36 +0000 by An Average NTR Enjoyer.

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I'm pulling that jerk move of selling a hat and then trying to lower its price >:3

KEEP IN MIND THAT THE CURRENT PRICE IS SOMEWHAT BROKEN

Sellers (only those with B/Os or prices):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10099509 (wants 7)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17730990 (wants 7 pure, 8+ in unusuals)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17798408 (8)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17438658 (8)

Sold:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16966591 - Sold for O. Fire Bonk Boy (3) + 3.5 pure (6.5 total)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17798408 - Bought for 1 bud pure and 5.5 in unusuals (6.5)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17730990 - Bought for Beams Company, previous owner gave the milkman, burning crown, SF grenade, and 22 keys (estimated value of Milkman in the trade was ~7.4 buds with estimates, might be off)

Let me know if the range needs fixing or if anything with values or proof is off. Thank you in advance! ^^

this hat is mass duped, i didnt check ur links but im pretty sure some have duped hats

they are all duped apart from mine :3 <----- Special

damn so it´s worst of i thought

Hi, backpack.tf prices are for clean unduped unusuals - so you can't suggested a new lower price range for this hat with your proof of duped hats. Without King Prawn S> V. Gibus burning milkman all of these are duped.

Downvote for now.

So none of this is valid? .-.

If so, how else would an unusual with a lot of dupes drop in value? Its not like the clean ones would lower in price or anything...?

Like I already said - prices at backpack.tf are for clean unduped unusuals - if a price is lowered it counts for unduped unusuals. If you want to lower a price of an clean hat, so u have to provide proof for sales of clean hats under stated range. If u only have proof for duped hats, which mostly sells for less than unduped ones - ur suggestion may not accepted or closed by a admin.

The problem with that logic is that, with so many duped on the market, those are the only ones selling. People value the clean ones higher, but they never sell. Because people ask more for clean ones, buyers go to the duped trades because people with duped are more likely to sell them.

In nutshell: Clean don't sell often, let alone at a higher price, but duped ones sell all the time. This should have at least /some/ effect on the market for the hat :L

That has a effect on the market - duped hats sells mostly for less than clean ones, but backpack.tf represents only prices for unduped unusuals, thats why this suggestion is a mistake in my opinion.

Duped hats shouldn't be used to lower or set a price :(

Mine isn't duped, but it's gifted. Oh well.

only clean ones that i could find that have sold recently

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17119691 added a burning crown for a beams cm

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17035548 burning milkman + burning gatsby + ~1.5-2 for a duped burning beak

What do those value the milkman at in those trades? (Id do it myself but I'm banned from OP again)

first sale would put the milkman at ~5 after overpay, but both hats added are outdated

other sale is hard to tell, gatsby is outdated, duped stuff is annoying to price

not really enough valid proof here to make a range

If there exists unduped hats, then we must price by that. As Kaushu said, the only two recent sales of an unduped burning milkman involved unusuals with old/outdated prices. Even if we kept those prices, the first sale sold for a lot less than the suggested range, and the second one can't be valued because of dupes and somewhat old prices.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17730990 - this one is clean, BO of 7 buds. This indicates the old price may be much too high. However, unless you update burning crown and beams CM or show that their old prices are still valid, we don't have evidence to set a range with. More info: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-new-unusual-price-suggestion-guide-the-cheat-sheet/