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Right, let me get a few things off my chest here.

I've had tons of experience with this hat since I unboxed one. I know how it goes and what people want for it. I'll keep trying until this beautiful hat gets the price it deserves.


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17315232 Cloud 9 Tree. Said to be 3.1 on the other suggestion. However, it's range is 3.2-3.9. The average is 3.55, and that's why 3.55 comes into the range.


I also want to post some of the offers that have been given on here.


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16680344 I was offered a Misty Skull Bucket and a Dead Pres Bubble Pipe. The Misty Bucket sold for a Dead Pres Pipe and both hats go and sell for roughly 4 buds each. Feel free to counter this part in the comments.


Also I was offered a legitimate $155 by a friend. $155/$37 (price of buds) = Roughly around the 4 bud mark.


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18147318 Offered Bubbling Bonk Leadwear (average 1.8 buds after overpay) and a KaW Professor's Peculiarity and 9 keys. This would definitely hit the 4 bud+ mark, which Peculiarity Terrorwatt effect being 3.5 buds.


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14225657 offered GE Drill Hat (4-4.5 buds. 3.8 buds after overpay) an old trade but I'll post it here anyway.


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18225948 Apparently sold in the 4 buds range.


Well, this may not be the best proof, but I would really appreciate you guys helping out here. I think this is one beautiful hat, and it need this kinda price. Thank you for reading.


P.S. The low end was gonna be 3.55, but it won't let me :(


More proof hopefully coming soon once I speak to a few old owners.

    someone told you this in your thread earlier and you've ignored them.


    unusual overpay works by taking the midrange value of the unusual and multiplying by 0.9; therefore 3.55 becomes 3.2 as happened in the previous suggestion.


    You're doing the proof round here; don't tell us "they sell for 4" about the pipe and bucket without giving any proof whatsoever. also, since you're using backpack.tf to price your hat, you use its prices (unless they're outdated) to estimate other hats that are offered to or traded for your hat, so you should be pricing the bucket or the pipe before you rely on them as evidence. at the very least, offer a mini-suggestion within this one to establish why they're worth 4 at a conservative estimate.


    we need at least a screenshot of that cash offer, because telling us a story isn't valid proof. also if you think your hat is worth 4 why aren't you taking 4 pure in cash from a friend?


    listed c/o's are not valid proof unless there is a post on the trade or a screenshot of the offer being made in steam chat, so much like you saying "I got offered 4 in cash" (which is actually like closer to 5 considering market cash value for buds,) that story the trade owner tells us there isn't valid proof. Nevermind the fact that both of those unusuals are outdated prices and thus invalid on that ground as well.


    Additionally, your "apparently sold in the 4 buds range" sold for an unpriced killawatt vintage tyrolean. you're clearly too keen to set a higher price and don't want to look to far into what it actually sold for. invalid sale.


    http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2406843041,101,5

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2386456648,109,5


    basically none of your proof is valid, or if it is like the sale used in the other suggestion, you just don't know the rules about how to handle it. sorry mate, the fact that you think your offers are worth 4 buds doesn't mean this site does.

    You haven't calculated overpay. If it's not pure, you have to multiply the value by 0.9 (90%) of either the middle end or lower end, can't remember which. (Someone please correct me, pretty sure its low end but I don't remember :P)

    Cloud9 tree = 3.2-3.9

    Which makes the average 3.5

    You have to take the average x 0.9

    3.5 x 0.9 = 3.1


    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17739448

    Sold for a PE masterbelt

    Original value x0.9 = 3.2 buds


    The value is right here. The drill hat is outdated and its invalid.


    Also,

    '' http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18225948 Apparently sold in the 4 buds range. ''

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18225948 -> Sold for a KaW Tyro which has no price.


    Downvote.


    Cool that you downvoted my comment.

      I'm waiting until 2 people accept my friends requests so I can ask what they sold for.

        Dude, they clearly sold for the Tree, Masterbelt and the Tyrolean.

        Just close this and dont try to manipulate this.

          There are others too, I've looked up other previous owners. Just wait.

            4 buds in the range? -> nope


            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17777093 - unsold 3 weeks at 4 buds.

            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18201775 - B/O is 3 buds = NOT A QUICKSELL.


            4 shouldn't be in the range since its unsold for 3 weeks long and didn't even had offers and there is one selling at 3.

              I never downvoted you comment, I'm just waiting for these people to accept the friend request and I can ask.


              Yes I'm trying to make it go up, because I have one and I think it deserves it. That's all.


              At least I tried.

                Sorry but it doesn't deserves a bump up.


                -The 2 recent valid sales are at 3.1 and 3.2 (the current range)

                -1 unsold on the market at 4 buds (4 shouldn't be in the range)

                -1 guy selling it for 3 buds.


                This hat was overpriced on TF2OP. The current price is fine.


                ''Also I was offered a legitimate $155 by a friend. $155/$37 (price of buds) = Roughly around the 4 bud mark.''

                Proof of that?


                ''Yes I'm trying to make it go up, because I have one and I think it deserves it. That's all.''

                Ofcourse.. you have one.

      Here I come with more proof!

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18247017 sold with a DP Headsplitter for a PE + 2 buds. He claims in that deal for the Panama to be about 4 buds.


      Having trouble with the overpay calc on this one.

      I think the comments pointed out every flaw in your suggestion.