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Aussie BBC, not that easy to sell at 2 buds flat anymore, many under the lower range of 1.8 buds.

Buds are taken at 19.5 keys, mid price of buds at time of suggestion.

Aussie BBC price at 1.8 – 2 buds at the time of suggestion.

I’ll show ya why it needs a price hump.

All prices are rounded to the nearest decimal.


Selling and unsolds at 2 buds:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18113236 - 1+ week old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18099553 - 1+ week old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18315571

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18313398

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18149417 - 1 week + old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18120695 - 1+ week old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18184265 - 1+ week old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18328792 - Specialized

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17712818 - 4 weeks/ 1 month......

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18342509

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18153792 - 1+ week old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18346849

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17778774 - 3 weeks old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18224843 - 5 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17686996 - 4 weeks old...again.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18161198 - 1 +week old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18051749 - 1 week+ old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18014581 - 2 weeks old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18134364 - 1+ week old


http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52c897a54cd7b838158b456d - 1 unsold for 2 days


Sooo many more at 2 buds unsold for weeks…..


Selling at 1.8 buds (35 keys):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18322756

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18318352 - Specialized

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18257428 - 4 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18252472 - 4 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18338690 - (33.5 keys to be exact)


http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52c897a54cd7b838158b456d - 2 BBC’s unsold at 35 keys for 5-6 days.

Selling at 1.6 buds (32 keys):

www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18310973

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18126974 - 1 week old...

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18155191 - Willing to do 1.6 pure

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18306012

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18309520

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52c897a54cd7b838158b456d - 2 BBC’s available at (32/33 keys) (1 at 4 days old, one that is specialized)


Selling at 1.5 buds (30 keys):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18204203 - Specialized KS added

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18344323 - w/ parts

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18281625 - Specialized


Seeing as 2 buds is a clear hardsell price, 2 buds should be out of the range. Finding a few at 30 keys (1.5 buds) shows it as a quicksell and shouldn’t be in the range yet.


A much better range would be 1.6 – 1.8 buds, portraying where the majority of these prices are having much better attention, although it is taking them some time to sell as well.

Time for the price hump.


All links are valid at the time of suggestion.

Sorry if there are any duped links (unlikely though – human error).


Have a good one.

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18315571 - only 1 day old...

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18313398 - also 1 day old...

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18149417 - offered a spec ausi flame thrower (think ~1.85 mid range)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18120695 - also got offered an ausi flame thrower (~1.75)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18184265 - offered a 1 of 2 spellbound mongolian (no price set but not a bad hat/effect)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18328792 - less than a day old

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17712818 - guessing he's actually keeping up with price changes. got someone willing to pay 2 buds, something happened in transaction, and someone offered 1 bud + SF wrench (~1.85)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18342509 - less than 10 hours old and unbumped in the last 5... chill.

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18346849 - 3 hours unbumped....

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17778774 - only looking for pure, offered a pro ausi FAN and a pro medi gun fab

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17686996 - someone offered 2 buds... not sure what the outcome was.

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18161198 - only being offered unusuals... not bad ones from what i can tell, but i don't focus on unusuals personally.

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18051749 - last serious offer of ausi flame thrower (~1.75)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18014581 - only looking for pure (?) terrible listing advertisement

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18134364 - pure/overpay and someone seemed to agree idk

    not willing to go through any more -.-


    TL:DR - seems like selling for pure 2 buds is hard, but agreeable eventually. The lack of determination by some of these sellers is quite sad, but not all are old enough to deem a drop. That, plus price just dropped 6 days ago and scared peoples be willing to quicksell.

    With 1.5 seeming quick sell and 2 being hard, but do-able (and I hate the wide range) I'd suggest 1.6-1.9. Ya'll check me though and gl.

      L1 – looking for 2 buds + sweets

      L2 – looking for 2 buds w/ no great offers

      L3 – offered a spec aus flame, a. the spec doesn’t add towards value, b. it’s a week old.

      L4 – Aus flame sold, not a valid offer

      L5 – Speculation on u. hat pricing not valid

      L6 – less than a day but still part of the selling @ 2b category.

      L7 – 1b + s.f. wrench sold, invalid, 2 week old offer

      L8 - less than a day but still part of the selling @ 2b category.

      L9 - less than a day but still part of the selling @ 2b category.

      L10 – Pro med fab has no set price.

      L11 – Stupid invalid 2 bud fake offer, guy doesn’t even have ½ bud BP

      L12 – You don’t have the set prices on the unusual

      L13 – Aus flame is a week old offer, flame is sold, invalid.

      L14 – only looking for pure has nothing to do with inaccuracies in my suggestion.

      L15 – same as above and no valid offer


      Don’t have much more to say, I don’t see any need for 1.9b to be in range. Speculations can be put to rest, they don't count for anything, sry.

        If spec does't add towards value then neither do parts or paint.


        For time dependencies, if 2 weeks is too old, then so is 1 week due to the new price. Also, for this price, collecting enough for 2 buds/>2 buds in items takes time, definitely making 1 day and probably anything less than a week too young (proven to be a factor and accepted in other suggestions as counter proof).


        For "speculations", if I can't say whether it's a valued item or not due to no set price then neither can you. So you can't say it hasn't received valued attention/offers.


        For pure vs not pure demands, it again goes back to buyer collection time. This could have been a factor for that person that had a small value bp. Maybe they were going to buy buds via paypal or something. Thing is, we don't know and therefore it can't be discounted as fake. Pure is definitely seen as needing a higher collection time vs items.

          I never said the paints nor parts added value. It's just an addition that's on the current Aussie BB's and this has not caused any buyers to see this as a 'free' attribute which comes at a bonus.


          1 week due to new price doesn't matter, the fact that there are too many out there which are not being sold NOR given great offers recently suggests for a price bump.


          You're entire passage is speculations. I can say that they haven't gotten proper attention because I have PROOF of it, 1 week+ old, 2 week + old, 3 week + old and MONTH old trades without avail.


          How about providing proper counter proof and not invalid ones like you did above? Stop wasting my time, if you reply with another counter productive text, I shall ignore you.


          EDIT: Now I see why you've been trying to argue with me, you own one DERP. Your agenda is not to provide proper proof, you're here trying to save your BP value. Leave.

            Ignore me and question my intentions if you must, but the lack of proper/indisputable proof will be the demise of this suggestion.


            No, you didn't, you just said an item being spec killstreaked added no value when it does.


            Again, many are being given offers right at/around the current range and you can't deem an offer is good or bad without set prices which some offers don't have.


            Many of these trades are looking for pure only or >2 buds in items, making their demands higher and needing more time for collection (more than a few days for a high value item).


            Instead of arguing my concepts, why not provide more/proper/counter-counter proof?


            As for my intentions/me owning one, mine is pro killstreaked (not sure if that adds value or not in your opinion) and isn't nearly as dependent on the base price as a spec or just regular one. Yes, I own one, and yes, I'm arguing your suggestion, but It's not like I'm just spewing random word vomit everywhere in an attempt to cancel your suggestion. I simply went through each evidence of your "proof" and noted all discrepancies I found. Tis not my role to provide proof, but to make sure the proof provided by the suggester is proper/correct.


            "But you should care about .2 bud drop. That's $27.7." No, I don't. I've spent way more than that on this free game and spent much less than that when I started my line of trades (to where I currently have an ausi Black box). You, again, make callouts on what you choose to see.

    Just a suggestion, but actual solds at the new price will strengthen the evidence more than any sellers

      when lowering all he needs is to prove that range is unsellable and there are sellers offering below whether they are sold or not

        i didnt say that i didnt agree with that, but solds trump any other evidence

          I believe in about 1 year the price will lower to 2 keys just like the botkillers