Suggestion: The Short Circuit at 0.05–0.11 ref

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~0.05 ref

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This suggestion was accepted Sun, 09 Mar 14 17:41:16 +0000 by A Distinctive Lack of Vincent.

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This is my first suggestion guys. And I'm one of the people thinking that the normally dropping weapons should be worth 0.05 ref. So my proof will be screenshots for the trades I was able to make in just a few hours - I bought 54 of them for 1 pain train each :) Here are the screenshots:

http://i58.tinypic.com/2qu6exi.png

http://i60.tinypic.com/nx3j8n.png

http://i61.tinypic.com/23ux8g0.png

http://i57.tinypic.com/2hzmzdh.png

http://i62.tinypic.com/ojkt8h.png

http://i62.tinypic.com/rgytg1.png

I'm also suggesting a range of 0.05-0.11 and leaving the 0.11 value because I cannot prove right now there are unsolds at 1 scrap.

And yes, all the trades were done with the scrap.tf bots. You can get more than 100 short circuits from there if you spend a whole day.

Hopefully that's enough proof for lowering this high price. If not, I hope someone will make a better suggestion for this, because the weapon is overrated.

PS: I do have more short circuits but haven't opened TF2 yet to get them in my backpack, but you can check my profile to see.

Also here are some outpost links with unsolds at 1 scrap:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17174418

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16909359

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18305507

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17334196

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18117369

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18002934

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18230180

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18101228

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17179179

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18147713

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16279062

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18237679

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17960762

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17938561

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18168512

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18230013

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18081843

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16979846

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18148430

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15278132

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14585691

You'll need more than what you bought off a bot to lower a price. And if you bought 54, where are all of them?

They're outside my backpack, because I haven't opened TF2 yet. Check my backpack to see how many items are new and not in the backpack yet:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197985417989

45 new + 10 already in bp = 55.

However you gotta find other people's proof, not just your own, most certain is unsolds for 1 scrap, like your trade here: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18172673 - although it didn't stay up for long

Do I have to show unsolds if I keep the 0.11 value in range? Also, yes, I had trouble selling these on outpost with regular bumping. I had to spam my offer in trade servers for a few hours to find buyers :)

Yes, because if it regularly sells for a scrap then I'm afraid the price is right, however this price was set during the big hype so it should be able to drop, but if none are selling for a scrap regularly then 0.11 shouldn't even be in the range, so show us how fast 0.11 sales go and we'll vote in your favour, if it supports your suggested price, so to say.

OK, just added some unsolds at 1 scrap. Hopefully they're legit and enough.

I think that being able to buy them from a scrap.tf bot means that people actually sold them for 1 weapon each.

On scrap.tf only 1 short circuit atm. It's a good indicator that the current price is valid.

I suppose, using only scrap.tf as a proof for lowering the unique weapon is not a good idea. Show that it's easy to buy it for 0.05 on outpost, bazaar.tf and so on.

I'm sure noone can proove that any unique weapon is easy to buy for 0.05 ref on these sites. There are very few trades for 1:1 weapon sellers existing at all for any unique weapon. Also, I'm still leaving the 0.11 value in range.

Regarding the number of short circuits at scrap.tf - you can see from my screenshots that I bought 54 of them in just a few hours.

When you need to sit, refresh the page and wait till a wep appears on scrap.tf means that its price should be 0.11. If u can come and take 50 of them in 15 minutes means that its price should be 0.05-0.11.

Right now I see 6 of them selling and they've been staying there for 15 minutes. I don't know where you read that rule that you need to be able to take 50 weapons in 15 minutes from scrap.tf so the price to be 0.05-0.11 ref.

I was looking for machinas a few days ago on scrap.tf and the time required to buy them was even more than the one for the short circuits. And right now you can find 3 machinas for sale. Is the price of it currently 0.11 ref? No.

In my opinion the only unique weapons that should sell for 1 scrap are the loose cannon, the rocket jumper and the sticky jumper. These are really almost impossible to be found on scrap.tf.

Atm there are no short circuits, no loose canons, no rocket jumpers and no sticky jumpers. Seems you're counter proofing yourself.

There's no rule about 50 weapons, it's just logical. For example, at the same time of looking for short circuits, I searched for widowmakers, force-a-natures, GRU, pomson, mantreads and market gardeners. Each of them was 30+ stock. It means that its price is 0.05 or 0.05-0.11, doesn't matter. But there were no short circuits, no loose canons, no rocket jumpers and no sticky jumpers - weapons which are in high demand. Such weps should be 0.11.

Dude, at different times some weapons are missing. 2 hours ago there were even like 10 short circuits. I'm not counter proofing myself. And have a look at my backpack - I have 57 of them. I'll be at loss if their price drops, but I don't care about that, because I just think it's unfair for this weapon to be worth 1 scrap. I'm regularly using scrap.tf to help people complete their chemsets (I've got around 1000 trades there). And I've been seeing these weapons quite regularly in the last 2 weeks.

And actually you're counter proofing yourself, since first you're saying "I suppose, using only scrap.tf as a proof for lowering the unique weapon is not a good idea." And then you use scrap.tf availability of this weapon as an argument against my suggestion.

I also showed some unsolds on tf2outpost, as you can see. I can probably find more, but I don't think I need them since I still leave 0.11 in range.

Also have in mind that having the bp.tf price set to 0.11 ref would mean that most of the people will prefer to try to sell them instead of scrapbanking them.

The amount of weapon available is not a proof of price. Consider spy weapons, they are almost never able to be bought. And yet their prices are 0.05. Also, imo since it can be bought for 0.05 (I've bought 10 once in 15 minutes), it should be at least lowered to the range provided.

well as he said, there aren't (weren't? I haven't checked for short circuits there lately) many in scrap tf because HE BOUGHT 50+ :|

Also he said that it took him a day

I don't know how exactly you're reading my description. I said, "So my proof will be screenshots for the trades I was able to make in just a few hours - I bought 54 of them for 1 pain train each :)"

And also, "You can get more than 100 short circuits from there if you spend a whole day."

And since it looks like you don't believe me, here's a screenshot of their number right now:

http://oi59.tinypic.com/14lm0jn.jpg

Can't respond to your last comment and actually tired of arguing.

You are using only 1 proof - scrap.tf, you can't show solds at 0.05.

Let the admins decide to accept it or not, I'm neutral

Nope, you just don't wanna read my description. There are also some unsolds links at tf2outpost.com included too. And I already answered you regarding showing sellers at 0.05. It's like you're reading whatever is convenient for you - and it seems like it's keeping the price at 1 scrap.

But yeah, you're right, let the admins and users votes decide. I'm not sure why this suggestion is taking so long to be approved or rejected.

Well the hype for these have died down much now.

I have like 10-20 of these and none sell at all for a scrap each.

What a shame.