Suggestion: Non-Craftable Tour of Duty Ticket at 3.11–3.33 ref

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~23.33 ref

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it's unbelievable the last suggestion has been approved.

right now there are more than 5 classifieds selling for 3.22

there is a guy selling more than 60 tickets for 3.22

I've bought 19 tickets in the last 8 hours for 3.11, and more than 400 tickets in the last 3~4 days for 3.22

Proofs:

http://bazaar.tf/trade/658162 - selling at 3.11, created one month ago, and tons (much more than 50) of tickets to sell

http://bazaar.tf/trade/696666 - 3 weeks ago, at 3.11, still have 2 tickets

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198100163712 - selling more than 60 at 3.22

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198094421842 - selling more than 10 at 3.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18491675 - tons for 3.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18463402 - more than 1 day opened, and still bumping

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18422784 - 3 days opened, and still selling at 3.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18490521 - more than 2 hours opened to sell 1 ticket, and nothing

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18455002 - 14 in stock for 3.22

Proofs of buys at 3.11 (Brazilian Time, GMT-4 - now it's 10h43 A.M) - only the last few hours:

http://i.imgur.com/W4l5Uq6.png

haha, while I was taking the screenshot, just bought another 2. btw, I've removed the other non-tickets trades from it.

Proofs of buys at 3.22

I had so many buys at 3.22 in the last week, that I needed to decrease my buying price to 3.11.

it will take too long to take a screenshot of every trade, so I've taken a screenshot of my database to show the proof:

http://i.imgur.com/wg56mOB.png

I've decreased my buying price for 3.11 today and:

Date Qt Price (scraps)

2014-03-10 10:35:21.750 2 28

2014-03-10 09:44:19.847 7 28

2014-03-10 09:10:24.533 1 28

2014-03-10 08:52:46.950 1 28

2014-03-10 07:58:00.087 2 28

2014-03-10 06:12:31.367 1 28

2014-03-10 05:46:17.683 2 28

2014-03-10 03:47:35.833 1 28

2014-03-10 03:07:15.280 3 28

2014-03-10 01:47:43.803 1 28

2014-03-09 23:41:30.097 2 28

2014-03-09 22:05:30.643 1 28

so, there is no reason to fix the price at 3.33, if it's so easy to buy tickets for 3.11 and 3.22

thanks!

Well it's possible to buy at 3.11 and 3.22 but it's also possible to sell 2 for 1 key. 3.33 is the most common ref sell price I guess.~

I'm not showing "it's possible", I'm showing it's EASY, a common price, since there I've bought more than 400 for 3.22 the last week, and only today almost 20 for 3.11, from different guys (and I'm only one person).

And I'm also showing that, right now, there are more than 100 tickets selling for 3.22 in bp.tf classifieds and outpost.

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198094421842 this link shows a person's profile and nothing more :|

All these people going on about quicksales, if there are HUNDREDS of sales at that price, for such an in-demand item, then gosh-darn-it they should be included.

The fact that the buyers have no problem buying at low prices means there are lots of sellers at low prices.

3.33 is still happening, and thats why its still in the range.

3.22 is common, and thus should be in the range.

3.11 is viable, and could be included in the range.

I have actually bought lots at my key for 2 tickets+1 ref, but i have also sold lots at 3.33 ref this new price seems good

i've sold more than 60 tickets with just 4-5 bumps a day at 3.33 over 3.5 weeks

and I've sold more than 300 last 5 days at 3.33

3.33 is in the price range, as you could see. I'm not even talking about the 3.33, it's obviously the most common price, but it's not the only common one.

not bad, the amount of tickets you've sold is worth more than your backpack

yeah, sure... first of all, I buy and sell'em, so I get 1~2 scrap profit only. second, ok, if this is the problem, look at my backpack now, lol

better for you now?

*your spam-comment sounds legit*

btw, if you wanna proof of the 500+ sells, I can show you, one by one, just ask me!

http://i.imgur.com/tMgJl5C.png

ok, sorry for the 500+ sells, it was 478 ;D

Proofs:

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198100163712 - selling more than 60 at 3.22

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198094421842 - selling more than 10 at 3.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18491675 - tons for 3.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18463402 - more than 1 day opened, and still bumping

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18422784 - 3 days opened, and still selling at 3.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18490521 - more than 2 hours opened to sell 1 ticket, and nothing

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18455002 - 14 in stock for 3.22

First link - posted 9 hours ago, last online 7 hours ago

Second link - posted 1 hour ago, has 2 left. "10"

Third link - posted 1 hour ago, you don't know how fast he'll be cleared

Fourth link - all gone

Fifth link - fine, anomaly

Sixth link - sold

Seventh link - 4 bookmarks, multiple "adds", stock still 14. why? device locked 7 days

this is a much better comment, but ok, so, more proofs for you:

http://bazaar.tf/trade/658162 - selling at 3.11, created one month ago, and tons of tickets to sell

http://bazaar.tf/trade/696666 - 3 weeks ago, at 3.11, still have 2 tickets

it's too easy to find tickets for 3.11~3.22, you only need to search..

btw, no buyers at 3.33, tons buyers for 3.11, and 3.22.. so these prices should be in the range.

I've bought 20 tickets in less than 10 hours for 3.11, isn't this a good proof?

Tons of buyers at 3.11-3.22 is a counter proof to your suggestion.

People buy below the normal price to make profit. Actually, just as you do it. Tons of buyers at 3.11-3.22 means that the price surely should be 3.33.

You don't have opened trades on outpost, you don't have nearly that amount of tickets, it's pretty confusing.

I keep my stuff at this profile: http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/595233

until yesterday, I was buying for 3.22, and 120+ buys per day, but only 40~50 sells. I've changed it for 3.11 today (~12 hours ago), and I'm selling only ~10% more than buying

each trade he does, it goes to my database, where I track all the items I've sold/bought, and the printscreen of that database is in my posts here

also, I've took a screenshot of lots of buys (steam inventory history) for 3.11 today

he owns a bot.

yeah, and I would get more profit with this price increase, as I've got more than 70 tickets there. that's not my point.

my point is: it's actually too easy to find 3.22 sellers, and not so easy, but still easy to find 3.11 ones. you only need to do a little search at outpost and bazaar to find it. here, at bp.tf, you find'em all the time, in less than 10 minutes.

other point is: if you fix the price for 3.33, the only thing that will happen is: outposter's will raise their selling price to 3.44 and the next 10~15 days, you'll be voting for a price increase here.

3.11~3.33 was a very stable price, and shouldn't be changed. it it was to be changed, at least the 3.22 shouldn't be removed, since it's TOO easy to buy a ticket for 3.22, you don't lose more than 2 minutes for that.

and yes, my bot had bought almost 500 tickets for 3.22 last week.

For me:-

I've bought some tickets for 3.11 refined metals each, as i also did sold a lot of tickets for 3.33 refined metal, and surely it took a little bit of time.

And yesterday, i sold 4 tickets for 2 keys.

shouldnt the uncraft be worth the same since the items you get dont make them uncraft if you use uncraft tickets

Yes they are the same, it's just not updated. It's not possible to get a craftable one any more, tho.

The price range 3.11-3.33 is better imo. It's easy to find sellers @ 3.22. Heck there is even a handful of bots who buys them for 3.22. People who sells for 3.11ref just have no idea the existence of those bots.

Perhaps you got me wrong. My main point was that "tons of buyers at 3.11-3.22" is a great counter proof for your own suggestion. People like you are quickbuyers. Such proof is invalid.

A quote from the rules:

"Invalid proof examples:

Quickbuyer or quickseller trades (people who are buying or selling substantially below market price, either to make profit to get rid of an item)."

What is more, in the rules that you were supposed to read there are some useful links about making good suggestions and other tips.

So. How to identify quicksell buyer?

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/969-psa-how-to-help-identify-quicksell-buyer-trades/

Quote from this thread:

"Question: Why should quicksell buyers not be used as evidence for suggestions on backpack.tf?

Answer: Quicksell buyers buy for a lower price knowing that they can resell the item for a higher amount. If a quicksell buyer is willing to pay a key for an item worth 1.5 keys then that means it would not be a good idea to suggest lowering the value of that item to 1-1.5 keys or even 1 key since these sellers are only there to turn a profit and are fairly confident that his or her price will ensure one. Quicksell buyers are actually a great indicator that a price is still strong when multiple people are still paying just slightly under market value in order to sell for current listed market value. However this does not always mean that quicksell buyers can never be used as proof. If a quicksell buyer gets so overwhelmed with a certain item or appears to have a high level of traffic flowing into his backpack, then it would be a start on a possible suggestion in order to lower the price of an item though you would need to follow up on the buyers side in order to see if traders are having difficulty selling for the currently listed suggested price range."

first of all, no, I'm not a quicksell buyer, I would be a quicksell buyer if I was paying 2.66~3ref for each one. 3.11~3.22 is a very good price for a $0.99 store item.

second of all, if what you're saying was truth, key's price should be 7.33, as 7.22 is a quicksell, and there are TONS of buyers at 7.22. so, don't get me wrong.

third of all, most of the 3.22 buyers are always out of metal stock, cause of the high demand of sellers. 3.11 is much more equilibrated for that.

and only to finish the discussion, I've made a less-than-5-minutes search for 3.22 and 3.11 prices, and got more than 10 links as proof of sellers.

buyers are a valid proof, since if there are people selling lots of tickets all the time for a X price, this price should be included in the range.

I've bought 40+ tickets in the last 10 hours, from different people, at 3.11. if I were a quicksell buyer, I wouldn't have bought more than 10.

edit: just bought another 36 tickets for 3.11 (from a seller's post, not from my bot) - so, more than 70 tickets bought TODAY for 3.11

http://i.imgur.com/nQicwnF.png

Lol. This arguing is just useless. You buy for the low end and sell for a high end. atm you're buying below the current price to sell at the current price. This is what is called quicksell buyer.

If you were paying 2.66-3ref each, you wouldn't be that successful. Your strategy is to buy at a low end to resell at a higher end.

Next, talking about keys. First of all, keys =/= TOD tickets. If you look through the last key suggestion, you'll see that the suggester used TONS of buyers at a higher price than it was to BUMP the price. Here you are dropping the price and quickbuyers at your range is a counterproof. Such proof can be easily used to bump price, but not to decrease it.

If you don't wanna listen to me, I hope a moderator will come here and explain it to you maybe in a more clear way. I think it's kinda some basics of price suggesting.

no problems, mate. thanks for your post.

so, please, just counterproof this:

"I've made a less-than-5-minutes search for 3.22 and 3.11 prices, and got more than 10 links as proof of sellers."

You can say whatever you want, it doesn't count as a proof.

Show us some proof if it's that easy. It's your suggestion.

Your first proof was easily counter proofed by lollipopcorn

http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/197637699 - selling ticket, for refs, string search 3.22

at least 10 posts of tickets for 3.22, it this was a "quicksell", there should be none.

and I've already showed 2 guys on bazaar selling for 3.11 (one with 40+ in stock, and post from a month ago), other 5~6 posts in outpost for 3.22

what do you want more?

and, besides that, when I've created this thread, I had something like ~70 tickets in my bot... now I have 125 there, and still paying only 3.11

I've bought exactly 90 tickets for 3.11 only today, and I can show you proof, like I did in my first post

You posted a search link on outpost? Are you kidding? That's all proof you could find for a such popular item?

you (quick)buy at under 3.33 and sell at 3.33

"Quicksell buyers buy for a lower price knowing that they can resell the item for a higher amount" -from dr1ftec's comment

you're a quickbuyer :u

just because you buy a lot doesn't mean you're not a quickbuyer :X I posted an ad to buy a key for 7.11 ref the other day, instantly 3 adds (none of which were phishers) thus I can infer that if I had more metal/ was buying more keys, I could've bought a lot that day .-.

"However this does not always mean that quicksell buyers can never be used as proof. If a quicksell buyer gets so overwhelmed with a certain item or appears to have a high level of traffic flowing into his backpack, then it would be a start on a possible suggestion in order to lower the price of an item"

Guys, don't try to argue. Just leave counterproof or point out the flaws, downvote, and move on.

please leave comments that contribute to discussions instead of dissing discussions as arguments

Fair enough that you have purchased some at below 3.33 can you prove that these aren't quick sales or quick buys. Having a bot is convenient so people that want to quick sell get metal straight away.

Could you show some links to active sellers that are older than than a day for 3.22? That's how you will win this proof until then downvote sorry.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18455002 - still 9 in stock for 3.22, 2 days opened

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18422784 - 3 days opened, and still selling at 3.22

http://bazaar.tf/trade/658162 - selling at 3.11, created one month ago, I've bought 36 from him today, and he still has more than 50 in stock

only some of them... but if you search in outpost with the string "3.22" you'll always find some to sell at this price, so, at least for me, it's impossible to not have at least 3.22 in the range, since anyone can find in less than 2~3 minutes tickets for this price.

btw, yes, a bot is often for quicksellers, but as I buy the the tickets for a good price, I have some loyal sellers, who always sell everyday 5 or more tickets for me, but this is not a proof at all, only an add to the suggestion.

the proofs are these links already shown, and nobody said anything to counter proof them, unfortunately, most of guys are only haters, because this is my first suggestion, and I'm a random for them, they don't try to open the links I've post, and to bring counter proofs, etc. (except for lollipopcorn, who did a good counter proof)

L1 - can't trade for 7 days, has 5 bookmarks and lots of adds, looks like a quicksell

L2 - so poorly bumped. Has 1 left btw

L3 - you've already posted this link. Any proof of buying 50 tickets from him? Cos I've looked through his bp yesterday and it seems that nothing changed.

I added the guy in the third link and i have tried to buy three tickets and this is what he replied to me:

new rules for buying tickets 1. use only trade offers, manual trading request will be ignored 2. do not try to go under the price, I have so much buyers paying full price that I will ignore you 3. if you want to pay in items, you must overpay min 30% of the value Due to large amount of buyers, I only accept trade offers. I am getting lot of offers ,so there is big chance your offer will crash , because someone already traded for tickets,that you have reserved. I accept biggest offers first, smaller offers last.If you want to make sure I will accept your offer with highest priority, you can add some items as bonus. If you add bonus item, I will prioritise it over the amount of tickets. any items accepted as bonus items(crates, cupons). You can still keep resending the offer if it fails 100 tickets > 2 tickets 2 tickets + bonus item > 100 tickets 2 tickets + 2 bonus items > 100 tickets + bonus item

(My trade request is still sitting there waiting to be accepted)

I didn't say that I bought 50 tickets from him. I said that I bought 36. and yes, I've already posted the proof, but here it's again: http://i.imgur.com/nQicwnF.png

His "rules of buying tickets" seem to be so weird and ridiculous. You need to add sth otherwise your offer can be declined - that's what he says.

yep.. or unless you buy in bulk. my trade request still pending lol

That's not about haters, that's about you can't provide the needed amount of proof. 3 links, 2 of them not valid - that's not nearly enough for a such popular item.

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52d1c32e4cd7b81f098b4568

classifieds right now with more than 10 sellers at 3.22 (some guys with very good stock, also)

the thing is: my bot was buying for 3.22, so most of people willing to sell at 3.22 was only going there and selling for him, that's why he've bought more than 500 in less than a week.since another bots and I decreased the buying price, it's very easy to find lots of sellers for 3.22.

there is no reason at all to put 3.33 as a fix price, there should be a range. if not 3.11-3.33, at least 3.22~3.33 it should be

and now currently there is zero sellers at 3.22..

Maybe just maybe you can prove that 3.22 should be in the range but show us that 3.11 is in the range?

There is no proof that supports 3.11

And some counter proof coming

Solds at 2 per 1 key:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18502211 - w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18501901 - sold 4, w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18498153 - w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18496505 - sold 4, with 1 bump probably

Solds at 3.33:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18505153 - w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18504936 - sold 3, w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18504542 - w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18504354 - sold 2, w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18503938 - w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18502388 - sold 2, w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18501828 - sold 5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18501327 - w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18501507 - sold 4, w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18500045 - w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18497774 - sold out w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18497734 - w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18496432 - sold 3, w/o a bump

http://bazaar.tf/trade/721699 - sold 3, with 1 bump probably

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18495872 - w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18495075 - w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18494534 - w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18494493 - w/o a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18493560 - sold 2, with 1 bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18492360 - w/o a bump

To be continued forever. And these are only sales within 1 day.

To sum up, if it sells without bumping at the current price, the price surely can't go down. Enough said. Downvote.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/531dbc984cd7b8d92d8b456b - a lot more proof here also in my lastest suggestion.

p.s. i dont have a clue to why i have so many negative votes on this one whereas

this one has a better percentage and less proof.. i just dont understand

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/531d68d54cd7b8740c8b4571

Maybe cos clean ones will soon be deleted.

Yeah but getting it at 3.22 is far too easy, and 3.33 is still in range, so chill out.

that's some counter proof :o

Bought and sold for 3.33, i wish it was lower but it seems to be a solid price as of now.

I'll just leave this here...

http://i.imgur.com/Zxq92Ez.png

http://i.imgur.com/EqOnbL9.png

3.22 is far from hard to get, maybe 3.33 - 3.22 is a better range.

I really don't have much issue buying for less. I wasn't online for the las suggestion but I would have posted this then. Shouldn't have been accepted like the last 2. http://imgur.com/61u9iAL

More supporting proof. From just today. http://imgur.com/KL5nSmI

could you link me to the outpost page to where you purchased these from? i want to confirm that these arent quicksales.

What we are trying to say is that YES it is possible to buy for less and YES it is also possible to sell for more. Many many sales for 2 tickets for 1 key are also happening but does that mean 3.55 should be in range too ?

Sales will always happen below the range but they arent sales that have been there for a long period of time classifying them as quicksales.

Due to the large quantities of these on the market it is possible to find new sales below the range but not sales that are a day plus older.

Outpost? psh. http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52d1c32e4cd7b81f098b4568

Like i said they are all less than a day old and some have sold/others are members with little bp value implying they arent very active

Clearly you cant find any on outpost too lol

edit: also there is none on there for 3.11? so why is 3.11 in the range still?

how about someone closes this and you resuggest at a range of 3.22-3.33 with all your proof

Are you honestly implying that having a low backpack value demerits the proof? I don't need to provide my links besides that; I have the proof of what I paid for with recent sales. OP is not a good place to buy tools. I always use classifieds for them.

The last suggestion should not have passed, and I would have posted my counterproof there. I have provided more than 10 sales lower than this value from the last week and I wasn't even online for three of those days.

I feel that this is logical. If you read the suggestion, it hurts no one. It leaves quick buyers the ability to buy at 3.11 then sell at 3.33. People can still sell at 3.33 and be at Backpack price. Finally people like me who sell at backpack lowest don't need to compete with mass sellers. This benefits everyone, On top its only a 2 scrap range. Meaning that the variable in price is still around 4 weapons. Making it not too drastic but not too meaningless. Overall i see this as a good suggestion.

Your proof is tiny. You need much more proof for people selling at 3.11.

Buying for 3.11 doesn't mean anything when you're reducing the price, you need to show sellers in the new range. I don't think there are many sellers @ 3.11, other than quicksellers.

Downvote to this range. Perhaps 3.22-3.33 is a better range.

And that's what I suggested in mine. :)

yeah the tickets, although they're $.99 on the TF2 Market, need to be cut down a scrap or two considering theyre so common when trading. Hell, i've seen people selling them for 2.55

people selling for 2.55?

mind giving me a link? it's for research purposes, of course

let me assist you dear pyroman, I think two opinions/minds will be better than one for this research of yours

edit: (but as a more serious response to edpimple, item quantity =/= item value so no they're not going to be worth "a scrap or two". also think, 7.11ref= 1 key = 2.49 on the tf2 store. so if I do some divisions and math some things, it's nowhere near a scrap)

I didn't say they should be cut down TO a scrap or 2, i said they should be cut down BY a scrap or 2.

http://i62.tinypic.com/fjjous.jpg

i hope it is help

yes there chance to buy it at 3.11

you can look in outpost many buyer success buy at 3.11 ref

also you can see in trade server too

I'd say let it go up 2 3.55 ref that's good and cuz with all those people selling 2 4 a key;)

3-3.11 ref

back it up :| don't just say it

Some more counter proof accidentally appeared. A buyer has payed with TOD ticket and I put it on sale. It took me 1 MINUTE to sell it @ 3.33. That's just unbelievable, lol.

Proof:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18549222

http://imgur.com/O2PXOFc

http://imgur.com/pbNQiSb

Why is this still open...?

I can take screenshots for proof later, but I buy at 3 ref and frequently get added to buy. I bought 3 in the past few hours for 3 ref. I know it's not in the range, but I'm saying it's possible to get them for under 3.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17944475

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18518407

Had my trade open for 3 days, and have sold 15 at 3.33 easily. I can provide screenshots if necessary.

Nevermind, ended up being sold out a bit later ._.

Whenever someone posts on the classifieds for 3.11 or 3.22, they're instantly bought up because of the fact that 3.33 IS the normal price for it.

Sold so many at 3.33 ref (keys are valued at 7.11 ref each)

http://i.imgur.com/X0hT5Z2.png?1 Sold 3

http://i.imgur.com/JdBmPGK.png?1 sold 2

http://i.imgur.com/sDvobZb.png?3 sold 2

http://i.imgur.com/TVX97Uk.png?1 sold 2

http://i.imgur.com/Fj1D9pK.png?1 sold 4

http://i.imgur.com/21SkkE4.png?1 sold 1

http://i.imgur.com/ffdDPrv.png?1 sold 3

http://i.imgur.com/pxF1zo5.png?1 sold 6

http://i.imgur.com/sBJBQ0b.png?1 sold 3

Sold a bunch more but that was all i felt like screenshotting

the thing here is: impossible to find ACTIVE listings for 3.11-3.22 refs, make a quick search in outpost and it's filled with tons of people selling for 3.33 - half a key..but in the other side is impossible to find buyers that pays more than 3-3.11refs for them

3.11 - 3.33 Ref

What does that have to do with anything?

I guess real current range is 3,22-3,44. You can't ignore the enormous amount of tickets sold for more than 3.33 and they actually still sell pretty fast.

I know bots/sellers with HUNDREDS of tickets at 3.33refs, btw they got a buying price of 3.11refs and they seem to be restocking so 3.11 it's pretty accurate as a low end of the range

when I made this suggestion (6 days ago), 3.11 was in the range, lots of sellers at 3.11 and 3.22...

but cause backpack.tf wrongly accepted the last suggestion, now nobody is selling for 3.11 anymore, that's normal... I don't even know why this suggestion is still opened, it should be accepted 4~6 days ago, or closed for now.

the best range for this item atm is 3.22-3.44, since there is no 3.11 sellers anymore.

btw, only fyi, my bot buy tickets for 3.22!

well, I will close that suggestion