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Earbuds
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Let's all admit this. We all know that Earbuds aren't 19 keys at all. There are quickbuyers at 19 keys. I myself have not bought earbuds at 19 for some time.


First off, buyers


19 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18531007 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18610915 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18616498

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18583783 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18414834 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16800375

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18592011 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18486769 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18218488

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18488243 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18501673 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14060129

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14678086 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17763069 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18494360

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18612313 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18590553 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18617384

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18255651 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18622143 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17200005

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18537977 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17821636 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18624985

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18049807 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18259027 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18623927

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18493218 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18043894 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18253784

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18444255 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16733985 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15745423

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17571335 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18615470 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15218063

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18185144 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18253832 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17790312

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18454115 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13385332 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18593174

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18575942 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14929855 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18581354

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18463645 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18340996 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18467541

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18606604 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18425280 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18624111

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18480892 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18490289 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18248249

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17951417 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18456555 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18468606

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17690784 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18548427 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17734535

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18592022 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16474986 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18577642

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18625258 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15801735 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18624296

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18395342 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16689231 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18535069 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18567625 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13816796 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18516857 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16461052 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18597454 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18616829 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17517467


19.15

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9785156 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18029131 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18598622


19.3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18552977 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18621297 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18598389

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18307086


Sales. *I can assure you that most of them were pure sales


19

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18621394 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18616289 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18610484

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18603666 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18601570 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18597912

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18597574 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18591113


19.4-19.6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18623606 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18619405 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18617632

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18614390 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18613333 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18611995

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18611760 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18606378 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18601919

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18601178 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18600612 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18599269

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18598588 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18598202 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18596030

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18587200 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18587028


20 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18623606 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18622810 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18621161

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18620284 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18619405 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18613306

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18607244 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18605197 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18604860

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18603773 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18602645 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18601403

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18601018 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18600453 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18599597

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18599524 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18599262 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18594165

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18591546 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18589524 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18586990


Analysis

Sales at 19: 8

Sales at 19.5: 17

Sales at 20: 21


Not only is it blatantly obvious that 19 keys is a quicksell, it's not the most commonly traded price. Based on my analysis 19.5-20 is the most commonly traded price.


Q: What is 19.5? Why not 19.4 or 19.6?

A: That's the beauty of the range. It an be interpreted as 3 ref or 4 ref. Or somewhere between the middle. I refuse to use .4 or .6 as that would be very confusing in unusual rounding and most high-valued items should be rounded.


Feel free to counter / support my proof. Vote based on proof presented, not blindly!

    In my own experience I can say that although they're somewhat hard to get at 19, it's much harder to sell at 20. 19 IS very easy to sell and takes up to 1-2 minutes, but 20 takes even up to weeks. 19.4 is the sweet spot, but a decimal change like that would be pointless on a currency. IMO the current range is fine doing its job

    /2 cents


    and shit I was ninja'd by polar

      I sold 2 for 20 just yesterday with minimal advertisement

        I havent had much trouble buying for 19 or selling for 20. Of course this is a week ago, but still

          I agree with this . The price should actually be set at 19.5 flat because both 19 and 20 are extremes on the curve.

            Only I can make earbud suggestions. What is this!


            But in all honesty 19-20 is a solid range. I would have suggested 19.5-20 if i thought it could pass but it really can't right now in the current market

              Sold mine at 19.5 in 10 minutes.

              They are hard to sell at 20, but too easy to sell at 19.

                Just bought 2 buds for 19 keys + TOD ticket each

                  Good proof, upvote.

                  I personally have an easier time buying for 19 keys than I do have selling at 20 keys. 19 keys sells fast, 20 keys takes a long time. imo, buds are really around ~19.5 and I feel the current range does an adequate job capturing that.

                    I completely agree with you, I've at least bought a couple earbuds for 19 keys, and yet the only time I've managed to sell earbuds at 20 keys is when part of the offer is mixed. However I find that people easily buy and sell earbuds for 19.5 keys, and 20 keys is when you manage to get a lucky buyer.

                      tbh, I have an easier time selling them when they are clean, relatively short history buds. but duped buds.... ugh. it's a challenge at 20. i end up just using those in unusual trades.

                      if 19 is pretty much insta sell, 19.5 is most common and 20 takes a while, couldnt we make it 19.5 flat?

                        Enough sales happen at 19 and 20 that I prefer the wider range.

                        Agreed--selling for 20 took me ages. Admittedly, I've only had ~4 buds to flip in the past few weeks, so I may be biased.

                          *Scoffs* At least you have buds to flip.

                          Some of us grind to get our stuff... *Laughs* Just kidding.


                          But I have noticed that 20 is a rather tough sell, and 19 isn't so much of a quick-sell–at least not enough to where you couldn't buy one for 19 Keys.

                        i really like the way the range is now. i think 19-20 is all possible, i like having the 19-20 range though because when keys or buds have a single price no range it never stays for long, people buy lower people sell higher, but ranges actually last a while as accurate prices.

                          Yup I agree, 19 is a quicksell. It's faster than me with megan fox


                          Upvote.

                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18448236 user sold 2 almost instantly

                              19 pops up often enough its just that it sells so quickly you dont see it

                                the 19-20 range is a solid price range. The only thing i can think of better is the 19.5 on the dot (since that seems like the common exchange rate)

                                19.5-20 would be too much in my eyes

                                  Sweet, you read my post? :-D


                                  Upboat.

                                    19 is very hard to come buy i get a few here and there but i rarely do however 20 is very hard to sell at theres A LOT of 19.4-19.6 sellers

                                      So buying at 19 is still easy but selling at 19 is insta-sell ? ... Hmm yeah, this range looks better, upvote.

                                        Yeah, I sold mine for 21keys in less than 30min from posting on outpost. Don't have a proof, but it's on you to believe or not.

                                        Buy: 19, sell: 20. <20 sell quickly, >19 buy quickly. >20 can't sell, <19 can't buy. 19.5 instant buy/sell. Don't see the problem.

                                          PRICE MANIPULATION


                                          Less serious note, i was in the market buying 2 of these yesterday, could find one for 19k4r - barely might i add , then another from scrap.tf ( i couldn't be bothered :( ) for 19k6r.

                                          Leftvote.

                                            Don't you mean on a more serious note?

                                              Yus, thank you xoxo.

                                            So I know this was 11 days ago, but I hadn't been able to trade last sunday to this sunday because password reset. So I dunno if this is still valid, but I was able to buy 2 buds at 19.


                                            http://puu.sh/7ySM8.jpg


                                            I think I had the trade up for a day and a half or so? I don't think that could be considered quickbuying at that point.

                                              baught one for 19 keys 2 ref on classifieds

                                                19-20 is perfect for how it is right now. Pretty hard to sell at 20, Easy to sell at 19. Also not too hard to buy at 19.

                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18639802


                                                  Quicksold for 19 keys 3 refined

                                                    Honestly, in my experience, it's very easy to buy at 19 and sell at 19.5.

                                                      The range current range is better than 19.5-20.

                                                        omg guys it by kodorin instant upvote

                                                        I saw plenty of sellers for 19 keys.

                                                        I even got a clean, short history, buds for only 19 keys.

                                                        Of course that trade doesn't represent the market, but I really think this range is solid.

                                                          In my experience, buying at 19 is fairly easy, and selling at 19.5 is pretty fast too.

                                                            I bought some for 19 keys and sold for 20 keys with no ease yet with no difficult. I think the current range still applies.

                                                              well already bought many bud at 19 keys like........ 20 bud

                                                              and sold it 20 keys with very hard time

                                                              current price is fine

                                                              it help buyer and seller in same time

                                                                [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/504875[/url]


                                                                I have been trying to buy for the last 6 days for 19 keys. and got one yesterday. Maybe because I asked for clean ones? I am sure I will get plenty if I didn't specify that. But only bought one in 6 days with auto bump feels pretty slow.


                                                                Anyway I only see this increase in price an eventuality. Up voting

                                                                  Possible, sold 2 for 20 flat within 15 hours of making my post and only 110 views

                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18661918

                                                                  http://puu.sh/7BBjO.png


                                                                  And buying for 19 is getting harder, only 2 bites in 3 days.

                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18591875

                                                                    Bought another for 19 keys. Was going to buy a 2nd from him, but he sold it in a trade offer before I could get back to him.


                                                                    My current trade: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18673126

                                                                    http://puu.sh/7BR1K.jpg


                                                                    Edit: Not sure what's going on with my trade, but it said I made it 3 hours from now lol

                                                                      After doing some further research, I have come across a site that is very alienate-like site to some of you called tf2finance.


                                                                      http://tf2finance.com/


                                                                      The price has been ~19.5 for over 3 days. I was waiting for it to bump up, sooner or later, but comment's consensus indicates that current range is already perfect. Although majority of the comments didn't link their trades/gave a sreenshot, I'll take their word for granted.


                                                                      Furthermore, while conveying the most commonly traded price, I was asking myself: "How easy is it to buy earbuds for 19.5?" I searched myself and found this


                                                                      19.5 keys sellers (or anything cheaper than 20)

                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18309065 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18416608 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18663947

                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18507382 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18601178 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18629100

                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18578513 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18663385 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18620605

                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17103349 | http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15820963 |


                                                                      As I no longer think this suggestion is right, closing.