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First key suggestion, lets do this; 7.22 is clearly quicksell. Other people has to made suggestions with the high range as 7.55 but I'll do a more conservative bump. was going to put 7.44 as the high end but I think I'm gonna play things safe. Thanks to "Barst the Man" for some of the proof.
I apologize in advance for any repeated links.
Please look at the proof and not just groan about the price of keys and downvote.
Buying for 7.33:
http://scrap.tf/keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18736049
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18326861
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10806553
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18141416
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18541513
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18809648
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18707407
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18798807
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13678223
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18649959
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18784226
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18315933
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18640893
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18107865
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17186351
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18450729
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18416333
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11785888
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18733495
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18096141
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18640858
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8395666
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18807979
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18725243
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18307734
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13599180
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18754774
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18707371
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18810323
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18768727
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18707629
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18496564
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18778340
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18761862
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17187264
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18403218
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18800515
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18618769
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18749170
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18770020
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18521201
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16949783
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18406281
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18734517
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15516798
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18772858
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18642715
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18741244
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18786742
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18663255
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15715501
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18496564
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18778340
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18403218
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18618769
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18757121
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15516798
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18772858
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18741244
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18642715
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18786734
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18758622
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18636309
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18758607
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18449374
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17265108
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16675108 7.44 in bulk
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15715501
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16228539
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16489708
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15670417
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18674005
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18794784
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17824782
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18808393
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18792718
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18697504
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18436614
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17754735
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17381332
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18750809
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18807989
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18775442
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18809800
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18767816
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18717133
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18410197
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18637689
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18425590
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18757121
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18713561
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18733925
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18784906
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18770682
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18244072
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18682837
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18551622
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18807367
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18789191
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18789025
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18789286
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18803727
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18444357
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18674931
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18475216
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18796952
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18750181
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18805266
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18636309
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18671372
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18693495
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18756958
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18803246
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18803231
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17967204
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18705317
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18768494
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18693555
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18719934
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18772912
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18697922
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18747514
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18427121
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18784641
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18085669
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18711785
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17402153
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18733573
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18764396
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18276322
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18715011
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18008523
Buying for 7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18793637
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18415849
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18807700
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18803948
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18216412
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18259602
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18794880
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18810609
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18795550
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18689588
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14901748
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18807324
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18807792
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18782430
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18301463
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18712951
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18706018
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18773380
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18498026
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16108357
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18497647
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18636309
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13729794
I guess I'm going to get a lot of notifications in the next few days :/
Edit: I forgot, to label the bots :/ I hope it doesn't bother anyone too much.
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Just wondering, do you admins get an alert whenever a key suggestion is posted? It's just you guys always seem get here fast to remind people to stay on topic. I want people to stay on topic too.
Moderators do not get an alert, they're just normally online often dealing with price suggestions and have a copy-paste of this to post on every suggestion. If they got an alert, then maybe they'd close the troll ones a bit faster, eh Kaushu? ♥
most of us just watch the suggestions often, to close the proofless suggestions, or to help out with some of the other ones. recent key suggestions have been decent about staying on topic, so I hope it's the same here.
Don't even need proof lol
I was kidding lol dont need to hate <3
I think you need more proof.
Technically hasn't been a week since the last accepted key suggestion?
It's only a week for suggestions that alter the price's median by half a scrap- so a suggestion of 7.22 flat would still be restricted by the cooldown. It's 3 days for suggestions with a larger price difference- so this suggestion is well clear of the cooldown.
i say you could say 7.22 is quicksell but i say you should include in the range, like 7.22-7.33 because going from 7.11-7.22 to 7.33 is a big jump for keys even thought it isn't a big jump if you know what i mean?
Thanks for reading Blu3
Gawd, this happens again. I agree but.. wai
Those buyers say it all.
Upvote from me.
some failed buyers at 7.11 and 7.22 would be nice, but other than that, good proof
Proof is sufficient.
Supports the range.
Proof is there.
Upvote for me.
Not sure. To be honest, there is so many 7.44 buyers (and probably sales) that it's hard believing it shouldn't be in range.
I was originally going to suggest 7.33 - 7.44 but I decided to take the 7.44 out at the last second. Resuggest?
I would. It's becoming extremely hard to even buy for 7.33; I have a much easier time selling for 7.55 than doing so.
Yea, there are a large number of 7.44 buyers, and they're being added in contrast with the 7.33 which don't have many sellers adding them.
I tried staying in the current range the other day, and it is impossible to buy at that range, and you sell extremely fast. Even selling keys at 7.44, I can finish extremely fast (over 100 items in less than 20 minutes). 7.44 should've been in the range, imo, but this price is better than the last one. Take my upvote :P
I think this is fine, conservative bump you know?
Why would anyone sell for 7.33 if their 7.44 buyers :P agree should be in the range.
i just bought a key today for 7.11 when are these thing gonna crash
I'd like to see that 7.11 And 7.22 Is not possible anymore.
I felt special when I bought ~15keys for 7.11 each - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18710695 (from 1 user, was lucky I suppose) [proof - http://i.imgur.com/FZg9RiN.png , did more later with him]
7.33 looks like it's more common traded, however I believe a few solds to prove your suggested price should be provided. ~Neutral until solds.
From the buying perspective it looks like an upvote, but I'll wait for solds :)
Man, these guys just keep going up...Well, can't argue with what you have here. In game I barely people selling keys at all, and when they do sell, it's usually for 7.22 at the lowest. At least there won't be a range on the key anymore...that'll keep everyone on the same page.
Not complaining though, I mean, doesn't that mean that all items worth a key or more go slightly up in value? Well, what ever happens, good luck trading everyone :D
Substantial proof.
Upvote from me.
Argee, I couldn't buy any for 7.11 and 7.22, but you have too many people buying for 7.44, and you know, buying =/= bought. If they're buying for 7.44, then they're selling for more than that, and probably they sold keys for 7.44 or 7.55. I think you need some sales, not just the buyers at 7.33.
Automatic Bot buying for 7.33 Refined per Key.
Link - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18410583
if you raise the price again. they will too
suggest 7.33 or 7.44 many players in trade servers and trade sites are buying key @7.33 @ 7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16477450<<<<@7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18546686<<<<@7.33
i suggest @7.33 reff
vote up :D
its not that hard to get 7.11-7.22 ref per key there is quite many sellers!
If you are looking to buy keys from tf2outpost, thats wrong place to do so.
Bots / sellers buying low and selling high, doesnt that make sense at all.
There is happening some sort of distortion with key market right now and like one guy said above of me that even prices would voted up they still would go higher and higher. 7.11-7.22 ref is very stable price. Stupid people pay what seller is asking for, that is true thing in real life too... Just my five cents.
1. Get us some proof of 7.11 sellers
2. There are bot and humans buying for 7.33 - 7.44
3. backpack.tf doesn't make the prices, community does, so backpack.tf has nothing do to with key prices going up.
>backpack.tf has nothing do to with key prices going up.
I don't care what side of things you are on, you must admit that bp.tf has at least an influence.
Just yesterday I bought a key for 7.11. I was initially approached with a buyout of "something around 7 ref." I could have very easily asked for 7 ref, but I'm reasonable. Personally, I would go with 7.11-7.33
Keys need range, all tat I say
Sufficient proof. Upvoted.
meh sold four for 7.44each last night (in a trade server, so not a bot), it took all of a minute :P (too lazy to screenshot though, don't kill me )
As much as I would like to disagree and keep keys at 7.00 (you can still in most trades where someone needs change for a key work the change off 7.00-7.11), given the number of willing buyers at 7.33, that is definitely the lower end of market value for anyone who actually cares abt getting a decent deal. At the same time, there probably should be a range to 7.44 minimum for what you can typically expect to pay for a key. (trade server prices are typically lower i've found but that's harder to provide proof) I'm going to stay neutral since I think this should have a range, but proving the higher end of the range is much harder.