Suggestion: Aces High Backwards Ballcap at 60.45–70.2 keys

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~15.5 keys

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This suggestion was accepted Thu, 27 Mar 14 18:48:34 +0000 by polar.

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New to this suggestion thing, so don't slaughter me.

Sold 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17966721

Cloudy Moon Gym Rat 3.4 Buds ~

After applying 10% overpay.

3.4 * 0.9= ~3.1 Buds (Rounded)

Outdated, but not many sales for the Ballcap recently.

Gym Rat Mini Suggestion: (2 on the market, 1 only selling as a package)

-http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18802002 4 Buds B/O

Sale 2&3

Proof: http://imgur.com/oMi9pXt

Proof that this user indeed owned the hat: http://imgur.com/9DjnObe

Bought for 3 Buds

Sold for $179 (after currency conversion) worth of Games, so therefore using Steam funds. 179/2.30 (Current Key Market Price)= 77 Keys =~4 Buds (Rounded)

Applying overpay because it was in Games=4 *0.9 =3.6 Buds

Unsolds

All unsolds have pretty bad offers.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15578430

110 Keys Unsold for 4 Months

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18650557

3-3.5 Buds Unsold for 1 Week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18543252

3.9 Unsold for 1 Week

Extra proof/help would really be appreciated!

Cloudy Gym Rat is over 2 years outdated and invalid....and I dont think steam games really count as valid either, unless you provide a minisuggestion for them all?

I've never read anywhere that steam games aren't valid, I'm working on a mini-suggestion for the cloudy moon gym rat, almost done

Games go on sale often though, what could be 20 dollars now could be 5 tomorrow.

The seller valued the games at Euro 130. Look at the screenshot

- Using games as the basis of your high end really complicates things

- The 3.6 Buds sales is based on a sales of games "Valued at Euro 130"

- There are various definitions of value - we all value things differently, thus the reason we have suggestions - to at least have a standardized view on value

- If there were price suggestions on each of those games, then perhaps this could be considered valid proof

- In either case - no conclusive proof of sale of games (list of games bought)

- Also - as stated "Games go on sale often though, what could be 20 dollars now could be 5 tomorrow" - A case in point GTA having an 80% off sale recently - $50 worth of games becomes $10 and then back up

I understand your points, but I really don't see why there are price suggestions for games that have actual value. The guy valued them at 130 Euros, which is what he said he sold it for

Well - It's just a hassle to find out:

- Which games they bought;

- Listing them;

- Searching the current value of the games;

- Finding how much they were worth at the time of sale;

Then the Euro 130 itself:

- Currency Conversion - Which institution are you going to get the rate from; The actual rate at the time of the deal

- Valuing it at Buds - Numerous methods

Non standard trades are fine as supplementary proof - not so much when it's the basis of your suggested range.

Also - 3-3.5 Buds Unsold for 1 Week - Proof that 3.6 Buds is a bit on the higher side

I see your points, but I think that because this is a drop rather than a raise, my proof is strong enough to warrant some upvotes?

Well:

- You've stated your case

- Counter points have been raised

- Eldric Liaz raised valid points - A quick summary with some flaws in your proof:

Cloudy Gym Rat is over 2 years outdated and invalid....and I dont think steam games really count as valid either, unless you provide a minisuggestion for them all?

For the Gym Rat - I believe you need to use original prices from the Price History - http://backpack.tf/stats/Unusual/Gym%20Rat/Tradable/Craftable/38

- Following the blue line - The price range is currently 3.5 Buds - 4.5 Buds NOT 3 Buds to 3.8 Buds

- It's a vote - Lets see what the community thinks :)

In either case - Good Luck with the suggestion :)

See comment below for gym rat

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/8542-report-a-single-sale-the-forum-version/page-8#entry96397 - gym rat

Thank you benevolent admin!

Cloudy Moon: looks like it might be ~3

With Overpay ~ 2.7 Buds - Thus the lower end could be 2.7 or stretched to 3 Buds perhaps

The issue is still with the sale that the high end is based on - It would (as stated above), require mini suggestions for each of the games, or some way of verifying the value of the games at the time - a tedious process; Along with the currency conversion, into dollars and then into Buds

Well, it's probably 3-3.5 or something like that. I don't have a problem with taking the gym at ~3. Especially with the other 3 pure sale. Yes, the high end doesn't really have a basis. But he's lowering the value. Perhaps this isn't a bad conservative drop

I guess it's fine - A Conservative drop

- The Seller who traded for the Gym Rat had a B/O of 4 Buds

- The trader who bought the Games - believed that they were getting a deal worth 130 Euros - ~ $179 (based on a currency conversion) ~ 3.6 - 4 Buds

- A Seller at 110 Keys (>5.5 Buds) - 4 Months Old

- A Seller at 3 - 3.5 Buds Unsold for 1 Week

- 3.9 Buds; Unsold for 1 Week

Considering the above reasoning by blind polar bear - Upvote