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Sellers under accepted price
http://i.imgur.com/JOOrztJ.png <--- 2 at 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18565608 <--- 1 key (actually sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18820592 <--- 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18820260 <--- 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18823332 <--- 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18752587 <--- 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18805325 <--- 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18730179 <--- 1 key. He never bumped it.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18712062 <--- 1 key. He never bumped it.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18750682 <--- 1 key. He never bumped it.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18792708 <--- 1 key. He never bumped it.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18787328 <--- 1 key. He never bumped it.
Unsold at accepted price
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18547293 <--- 2 weeks
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18637782 <--- 1 week
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18806853 <--- 1 day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18535636 <--- 2 weeks
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18791045 <--- 2 days with autobump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18703148 <--- 6 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18691335 <--- 1 week with autobump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18655767 <-- 1 week with autobump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18775006 <--- 3 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18462802 <--- 2 weeks
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18800816 <--- 1 day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18809784 <--- 1 day
Will find more as I go.
So all your 1 key sellers are either:
- Poorly bumped
- Not bumped at all
- Very young
- Quicksells
Sorry but proof of 1 key being in the range yet is weak. Downvote from me until better proof is provided.
The bump doesn't matter. The fact that there are people willing to sell for 1 key is what matters. Hence why I stated poorly bumped or never bumped. Because I knew somebody would say the exact thing you just said.
And how can you say 1 key is a quicksell when it is 1 ref lower than accepted price currently? That makes no sense.
Just because the price is 1 ref lower than the current price doesn't mean the item won't sell quickly. You have shown one sold at 1 key and even that is a week old and I'm making the assumption it sold fast as I can't check the timestamps on my iPad. Using unbumped trades is just bad proof as we can't know for sure if it might have sold quickly with another few bumps. People are willing so sell items under price all the time, but it's the fact they're quicksells that keep the prices from plummeting.
Just my personal thoughts from what I've seen and done before.
Thanks for the time and effort and feedback. But I feel im right and you are wrong. We will see how it plays out. The community shall decide. Not ruktfist.
the bumping matters because we can't tell if 1key would've been a quicksell if the trade ad was bumped properly. I hope we all know a well bumped trade is more visible to the people looking around outpost :<
Bubbles is kinda right.
I'd like to reply on the second link under 'Unsold at accepted price': post's mine, obviously, but by not removing the graybanns doesn't mean that they don't sell for the given price.
Proof (trade created march 17, sold until march 31): http://imgur.com/zpA7JaI
These were just the pure offers. If needed, i can also provide the received and accepted offers in items.
about those unsolds
link 2 is sold and presumably restocks for 1 key, check the item history on that graybanns in the trade.
link 3 is young.
link 6 wants 1 key 2 ref, which is above the current price.
seems hard to get 1 key 1 ref, but quicksells for a key. (only 2 of them are left in the hour since you put this up.) and re: your comment that "it's only a ref off"; that doesn't matter for 2 reasons: 1, a ref off is a good amount off and I regularly quickbuy stuff for a ref off, and 2, if it sells without a bump it's usually considered a quicksell.
sold for 1 key 1 ref:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18826620
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18819907
sold for 1 key 2 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18819824
I gotta say though, looking through the trade.tf listings the overwhelming volume of the ones that actually sold, sold for 1 key. I'd say you should hit that up and provide a shit ton more sellers/solds for 1 key to convincingly prove that 1.2 is not commonly traded enough for this, and that 1 key is where most of the trades happen.
I don't use trade.tf much at all honestly and will check that out.
But ive got two more 1 key listings currently.
http://i.imgur.com/b8DfXVo.png
More links
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18823625 <--- sold for a key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18823332 <--- asking 1 key
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10072579 <--- 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18821056 <--- sold for a key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18819355 <--- sold for a key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18818416 <-- asking 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18818364 <--- sold for a key
Most of those links of solds at 1 key were sold rather quickly. I would say that 1 key is a quicksale.
http://i.imgur.com/FsG9Q00.png <--- 3 more at 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18855459 <--- 1 key
1.1 straight yeah. Even 1-1.1 maybe. But 1, no.
1 key is pretty quick. 1.2 is a bit hard, but 1.1 definitely sells (most of your unsold links are now sold).
1-1.1 seems like a far more suitable range since 1 seems like a sort of a quicksale price (very common tho)
What i've seen is that the current price is quite stable, 1 key is quicksell and 1.3 will never sell, even 1.2 is hard to sell
If you want to try again, 1.1 would be good range
I saw one sell for 1.1 in a trade server yesterday. Quickly.
All of your unsolds, selling for above a key, have since sold with this single exception: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18703148 who is asking for above current range regardless
It's clear it still sells for above a key. While there is argument to including 1 key in range, removing the 1.1-1.2 key range in the process is premature.
Closing due to counterproof within own proof