Suggestion: Medimedes at 2 keys

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~17.3 keys

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This suggestion was accepted Fri, 04 Apr 14 14:52:51 +0000 by polar.

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This has got to stop.

People still believe this is still a 2 ref hat, considering theres less of these on the market then the Haunted ones.

Heres my proof (Sorry if its not enough but its worth a shot, considering theres only 2 on the market):

Sold one for 2 keys within 18 hours (my trade):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18899193#latest

Very first comment, been offered 2 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18572871

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So yeah, thanks for comin'.

The reason why there are less of these...Would be because you had to buy this friggin Beautiful Monstrosity from the Mann Co. Store for it to be of Unique quality. Judging on how the price of this item is $7.49 it is understandable as how people would not want to spend that much to get this.

The Medimedes in the second link is lvl 42. That's most likely the reason for the 2 key offer.

I dont really think the level has nothing to do about why It got a 2 key offer.

If someone offers more than what the actual price is worth, its solid proof. I had no problem selling mines at 2 keys, and he couldve had an oppurtunity too aswell.

Numbers can be and are coveted. It's the same reason as to why low-crafts and odd-level vintages are worth more than their unimpressive counterparts. They're rare and they catch attention. It applies to any item with a range of levels, and thinking it doesn't affect price is just naive.

This item itself is rare and they catch attention. Thats why they shouldnt be worth 2 ref, considering they were 7.49 at the Mann Co. Store.

You completely ignored my point. Regardless, and I say again, REGARDLESS of whether the item itself is rare or not, odd-levels and craft numbers WILL affect the price. Perhaps it's BECAUSE the item is so rare that makes the already rare level that much more coveted, but that in itself doesn't necessarily affect the item's base price.

price in the mann co. store =/= in game item value :|

lol if you're using that logic cow mangler is 2 keys lol

Cow manglers drop though. Also noobs are more likely to buy cool laser gun than weird restricted bird head.

Actually, odd-level items are not rarer that the normal ones. Let's take vintage Soldier's Stash for example. There are 274 total hats with 69 level, which is considered as odd, and let's take any other level. 52 for example. There are 268 total hats with this level. That's not big difference.

"I dont really think the level has nothing to do about why It got a 2 key offer."

I share this opinion

1st link sold 1

The second link didn't sell anything. I think the price is right it's just you don't have enough solds as proof.

He didn't say it was sold, he was offered two keys. I think this is enough proof since there is only 2 trades on TF2OP

This isn't a common item, sales are hard to find.

The other sales are either unknown or old.

That 2 Key offer alone gives me the right to upvote.

Since there are only 2 on the market, i think the needs an upvote

There is no proof that you sold it for 2 keys for the first link.

As for the second link, the owner says he as an offer 5 keys and declined. I think it does have something to do with the level, or at least he think so.

Downvote for me. Just isn't enough.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=244467579

Happy?

Also, this is an uncommon item.

You cant just stumble around and find these, these were 7.49 in the Mann co store. And that 2 key offer alone stands as 'enough' proof because there isnt alot of these on the market.

Unless you want to prove me wrong.

Mann Co. store price doesn't mean anything. There are plenty of weapons sold for 2.49 there yet I don't see people paying a key for them. Also, there needs to be more proof the only proof you have is your trade and a lvl 42 trade(not proven sold). I realize there are not many of these on the market, but it's rarity doesn't necessarily give it value, so sorry, but I'm going to have to downvote for now...

But it is so hard to really justify a valid price for such a rare item. I personally feel like this should be outside the realm of trading, and have no official price...

Three things:

-I havn't said the 2nd link was sold, I said someone offered 2 keys

- I agree about how rarity doesnt necessarily give it value, but what I am showing you is that 2 ref isnt the price for this hat anymore, its seriously outdated, and I have proven that selling this hat for 2 keys is quite possible.

- And 'personally' thinking that it shouldnt have a price is a bit skeptical, everything thats marketable should have a price.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18899193#p53571961

Just sold the other one for a key + A Select reserve Mann Co. Crate = (2keys)

Both in under a day.

we have 2 sales. What you paid and what you sold. either could be considered an outlier so you need another sold to support your range and odd levels dont cut it.

Question is, how?

Your basically asking me to find more solds for an item thats barely put on the market.

Either the other solds are:

A. Months old.

B. In the dark void of time and space (AKA, there nowhere to be found.)

Then there is no reason to update the price. There might be no demand if you can't find any more sales, and 2 sales isn't enough for this, much less odd-leveled ones.

If theres no demand, how was I able to prefectly sell both those medimedes for 2 keys in under a day.

Like Smillbert said, outliers. Maybe you sold your level 42s short. Maybe you got lucky. I don't know and I don't care, because two odd-level (which already makes them outliers, period) sales isn't enough regardless of how quickly you sold them, and it certainly isn't enough to convince me.

The Medimedes doesn't have a set level to it, they can be from level 1-100.

That's my point, for christ's sake. Odd-leveled ones are going to be worth more, especially on an already rare item, because any given number (of which there are, like, 5 desirables [1, 42, 69, 99, 100]) has a 1/100 chance of being chosen. They're rare, people want them, and thus they add to the value. I repeat, and this is the last time I'll say it, odd-levels, such as 1, 42, 69, 99, and 100, add to the value and shouldn't be used as proof, period.

The same way you bought it for closer to the current range..

Due to the rarity of the item and you manage to sell 2 already, I believe that should cover for the new suggested price.

Got my support.

Err...I bought mine for 2 keys

Would you mind screenshotting your trade history? I'd really like to have a third here to silence the haters.

Here you go

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt267/YuleBSari/arch.png

Guess it doesn't matter too much cause this screenie has already been supplied by pancakess

Ahh, didn't recognize the name. Appreciate the screenshot anyway!

I bought mine for 2 keys a month ago if that means anything.

seller for 2 ref in classifieds right now

If there was... it's gone now.

Here's a tip, if you sold one with in 18 hours.. why not just buy another until for 2 ref and keep selling them for 2 keys, instead of suggesting this ..?

I sold 2.

Both in under a day for 2 keys.

Amazing !

Yet you still don't think to provide screenshots. Just incredible.

Either you completley missed the entire suggestion and didn't have 10 seconds to scroll done to find the additional proof I added,

or your just doing this for pure enjoyment.

You posted one :)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=244467579 (This was in the suggestion I posted a couple of days ago.)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18899193#latest (In the comments section, also in this suggestion a couple days ago.)

2 sales.

Don't blindly comment, and actually look.

" SCREEN - SHOT "

Whats the problem, its proof that I sold it for 2 keys.

Ehh.. Maybe because there is only one out there on the market http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/200659162

Yeah .. the only way to acquire anything , is through tf2outpost - how naive.

Oh, I guess I missed those 25 other trading site links in key/bud suggestion. /s Outpost is pretty much go to place nowadays for proof. If you have any counter proof from other sources you are welcome to post it. P.S. I can make a counter argument to your original post. "If you think it's still worth 2 ref I will give you 1 key for each Medimedes you being me." I am serious

Stop disliking his comments just because you think he's wrong about the price even when he posts a comment that's useful or is providing extra proof.

This is a rare item and with only 1 on OP your 2 trades whether odd levelled or not indicate that this needs a rise. 2 key is certainly better than 2 ref. Upvote.

That's the same link as the one in the original post...

Yep, i got a Medimedes, and i was offered 2 keys for mine but i sadly refused. this also happened a month ago xD

I like how every time pancakes mentions that this was 7.49 in the store, people completely miss the point and dislike his comment. Also, everyone seems to like ignoring the proof here, but no one provides counter-proof that these are 2 ref.

There are two sellers it seems. One is the guy taking offers, who got offered 2 Keys and 1 Bud (wat?), and the other is in the classifieds for 2 Keys. Everyone who says its not 2 Keys has provided exactly 0 proof, so I dont really see the argument, this is very clearly a better price.

I have added my trade to outpost. I am going to bed now (2:00am :P ) but if anything happens outside of Outpost, I'll post here.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18961520

Pancakess, I disapprove. Your price is > 7x higher than the previous price, and your proof is two sales.

Two.

Hello fellow pancake member.

Two is enough for a hat like this; yes I know it's a high price jump, but in today's market nobody is willing to sell it at the previous price.

Somebody in the second link offered a bud O_______O

Better make a bud suggestion now. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

But he said he bought another one, but I cant find it.

With just one sale, there simply isn't enough information to raise the price to 2 keys. Every argument here is solely speculation, because there just isn't enough data. That sale could have easily been because of the level, or because the buyer was stupid, or simply because you were an outlier. Without more sales, its impossible to tell. If you look at the suggestion 11 days ago on the same item, you'll find people asking prices of 1 key. ( http://backpack.tf/vote/id/532f38ee4dd7b87a608b4569 )

I have to downvote you because you simply don't have the proof to back up your claim. The fact that these sales are newer does not sufficiently outweigh the proof for that last claim.

This hat is rare, there's only a few up for sale.

The 2 ref suggestion that was accepted had all quicksells as proof.

2 refs is just a quicksell offer, this hat is way too scarce to be worth that much. Buyers are taking advantage of that, as you can see on tf2outpost (http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/200823618). Nobody who has one is actually selling it for that price unless they want to quicksell.

Heres a few offers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18961520 - 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18977606 - 2 keys

http://bazaar.tf/trade/730659 - > 1 key

Classifieds: http://backpack.tf/stats/Unique/Medimedes/Tradable/Craftable - both 2 keys unsold

http://i.imgur.com/4iGGguR.png - other 2 key offers

***I'M WATCHING THIS: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18944627 - untradable up for two refs (wrap not supplied). He bumps it every half hour,

Other than that, I have yet to see an offer for 2 refs. Either the buyers know better, or they sell too fast.

Upvote.

It's not exactly that the hat is rare, its just that nobody is buying them from the Mann Co. Store for $7.49

Also, that bazaar trade is stated as 1 key, but the trader says that it is worth "significantly more" in his comments.

Hence the "> 1 key," meaning more than one key xD

And that's true, but still...2 refs is incredibly low for how many are owned. Who would buy one off the MCS for about 3 keys and sell it for a mere 50 cents?

Treated - > as an arrow >.> Gosh I am silly.

Yeah, I'm trying to get some money back - seeing as even in unique quality it's only for full moon or halloween.

Hmm using my proof... did i say you could?

Anyways I sold it, so yeah here is the proof!

http://imgur.com/aGKPW3H

The Medimedes does sell for two keys, and i just sold one.

plenty of proof!

Thank you, with a third sell you probably sealed this suggestion to becoming approved.

Thanks for the support.

Iam agreeing this has to stop....

We now have another sale from another trader as well, so all sales aren't from a single person. Hard to find sales for these given their rarity. Accepting this as better than the current range so that owners of the hat unaware of its value don't get taken advantage of by more experienced traders. It can be refined with future sales.