Suggestion: Demonflame Samur-Eye at 312–468 keys

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~125 keys

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This suggestion was closed Mon, 07 Apr 14 11:41:42 +0000 by Horizon.

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Ok, so last time didn't work out right :/

It was my first suggestion in bp.tf, and I didn't realize people only wanted "proof of sales" no matter what proof you have...

Well here are sales of proof.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18490587 Sold for Beams Anger last week (Clean ones go for 20+ in buds, 15+if dirty) Worth 16 Buds+.3 of sweets

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15716788 Though sold 3 months ago, let me put up it up anyways. Sold for Miami Nights Bonk Boy (3 months ago it used to be worth 30 buds, but now is 15) Worth 15 Buds today

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18706125 Sold for KaW Crone's Dome (1 week ago) Worth 25 Buds for him and for most sellers.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18749238 + http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18744612 (2 week ago) DP Antlers (6-7.5 Buds 1 Week Ago) Now worth 5-7 Buds + DBD Impalers (10-11 Buds 1 Week Ago) Now worth 9-10 Buds, So 1 Week ago worth 16-18.5 Buds, but together now they are worth 14-17 Buds

So Sold for Sunbeams Anger+Sweets (17.3)

Dp Antlers+DBD Impaler+Sweets (17-18.5 a week ago)

KaW Crone's Dome (He priced it at 25 buds, like most sellers of KaW Crone's Domes, also sold 1 week ago)

And Miami Nights Bonk Boy (30 Buds Back then) <---------------Sold 3 months ago, just putting it as a little heads up to remind those that it can be sold for more in unusuals.

Just putting it up if you are ever going to do research on the hats I put up, the hats I put up were hats previously to these people.

So a Demonflame Samur-Eye was Unboxed (Purpuran) Bought from (Jesse43 ✦BG✦) for a Miami Nights Bonk Boy

The Samur-Eye of Jesse43 ✦BG✦ was bought from (Bjarne Guru {=€|>:>¤~) for a KaW Crone's Dome

The Samur-Eye of Bjarne Guru {=€|>:>¤~ was bought from (SaxxyBlack) for a DBD Impaler+DP Antlers+ Some sweets

The Samur-Eye of SaxxyBlack was bought from (Roar!) For a Sunbeams Anger+.3 of Sweets

Just put up the history if you guys do research of previous owners of the hats.

Go search for the prices of the hats sold for the Demonflame Samur-Eye, it has gotten offers above 18+ in unusuals and 12 Pure in Buds which does not make it 9 buds. Also the Anger is 16 buds because it was dirty, but has gotten offer exceeding 16+ buds in unusuals. If you have any concern please post a comment about the prices of the hats

Old Post: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/533a5b8f4dd7b8d7398b4773

Now this isn't price manipulation.

Price would be 19-20 in Buds, 21+ in unusuals. It was also gotten offers of 24+ in Unusuals in the past trades so check up the last suggestion to see them.

Also check the previous offers of past Demonflame Samur-Eye trades, they've gotten offers of 18+ in Unusuals

P.S. For the Anger, the guy (SaxxyBlack) Just Bought his Samur-Eye a few hours before selling it for my Anger, so he really didn't know much of the price but the price wasn't much of a difference.

You mean proof of sales.

lol thanks, will edit

Missed One ;D

Range seems a little to big there, its basically a 50% increase from the low end, needs to be tightened up by defining which end is outlier.

This exactly^ If the crones (25) was called an outlier and the 3 month old 30 sale ignored, then you'd be looking at 16 for the low end and somewhere around 17 or 18 for the high.

Not really 24 Pure, 20 pure atleast, it's gotten offers of 24+ in unusuals so atleast make it 24

KK, will fix the price, not really 24 buds pure but has been sold for 25 buds in unusuals.

Looking better. I did find 9 to be way too low for this hat.

Ikr, knowing what unusuals it's been sold to, and Banana's suggestion got a bit wrong.

He said sold for a DBD Impaler, but he didn't know that some DP Antlers were added.

Just a little heads up to people voting, research before you suggest or make a vote.

Proof is okay, but tbh this makes you look like your just trying to raise the value of your backpack.

But I do agree 9 is a bit low for this hat

Tbh I don't really care if my value goes down or higher. I just don't like it when hats get misvalued, so I'm just fixing the price here because there is no proof it's worth 9. http://backpack.tf/vote/id/532f04394cd7b8a93d8b4573

As you see he forgot to add the DP Antlers with the DBD Impalers and he misvalued the Anger too. I hope you now understand why it has to go higher.

Nah I know why it has to go higher, it's a great hat, its just its such a large increase

Thanks if you agree, it has to have a large increase if it has such a very misvalued decrease.

I agree with most of this, sadly your suggestion and your prices are even more off because you base it on highly inflated buyouts, there are no pure offers anywhere near those prices.~

You should read this before you make another suggestion first: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-new-unusual-price-suggestion-guide-the-cheat-sheet/

For every unpriced hat you are going to use, you have to make a mini suggestion (a complete one would be even better) to show how much the hat is worth, again, don't use buyouts for this but sales and offers (the offers can't be other unpriced/outdated unusuals).

You have no concrete proof for your values and that's why I'm going to close it, yes the current price is too low but yours is way too high.

I guess the price my brother settled for was kinda off, I'm sorry about that. But in NO WAY is this hat 9 buds. I am not trying to raise the value of my backpack, I just want justice. Sunbeams Anger, priced at 16-18 buds in this site. Yes, it's duped, so let's make it 15. I was offered 10 buds constantly and even got occassional 11.5 pure offers. How is that IN ANY WAY CLOSE to 9 buds. It just saddens me that I'm going to get 6-8 bud offers for this hat. Raising the value of my backpack is not my priority right now. In fact, this hat was unpriced until it was inaccurately priced by someone. The fact that it was so easy to accept the 9 bud vote yet it's so hard to justify that it's totally wrong baffles me. This is not fair.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18849399 - b/o 20

Not sure where you get your prices from, but "25 buds in unusuals"-- don't ever say that.

Beams Anger - no mini-suggestion to justify the value. And the current duped owner values it at 15 --> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18751638

Disco Bonk is 10, counters your suggested price.

KaW Crone - no mini-suggestion to support your so-called value. I doubt a robo effect is worth even 20.

There's a current b/o of 5.5 for dp antlers http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18749238 so under 14.5.

You may be right that this might need a little bit more raise, but your suggested price is way off.

let me get this straight. duped beams anger goes for 15. so it's justifiable that this hat is 9 buds?

Again, you're not wrong that it needs a raise, but I advise you get blind polar bear's help on this to get this right on the gun.

But this whole suggestion is wrong, I'm afraid.

Suggested price is really bad, but it could use a small raise. Maybe resuggest.

No, I am not trying to make my backpack of higher value. I did not buy this hat with anything worth 9 buds. I bought it with Sunbeams Anger+sweets. I'm sorry if the price is way off, this is Roar's older brother speaking. I guess his suggested price was kinda off. But in NO way is this hat 9 buds. There is nothing that justifies this as 9 buds. The only reason I am enraged is the fact that we will get much lower offers than 9 buds. This is not right. I've been offered 10 pure MANY times for the Anger i traded for this hat. I've researched the Samur-eye well before I bought it. Loads of higher offers than 9 buds. It just angers me that now I have a high value hat that'll be lowballed with 6-7 bud offers. Thank you bp tf.

So everyone accepts that the current price range is wrong. Nobody is arguing with that.

That doesn't make this suggested price correct though.

The proof is good, but the suggested range is not, as everyone is saying, including some of the top ranked suggestors on this site. They're all telling you to close this and start again with the same proof but a new range. Perhaps listen to them as opposed to repeating that the current price is wrong.