Suggestion: Green Energy Mining Light at 48.75 keys

Price Suggestion

~690 keys

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79 votes up

19 votes down

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This suggestion was accepted Mon, 14 Apr 14 16:47:22 +0000 by A Delicious Cashew™.

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1 year old price, only 1 valid DUPED sale so far. The clean one on the market has not been sold for more than 8 months: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13375383

Sold for a scorching hetman (2.5 buds, mining light was offered):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18872599

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19178309 - to show that mining light was offered

Sold for terror watt glengarry bonnet (no price):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18699666

Sold for terror watt OMA + sweets (no price):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17421934

Based on a suggestion that Jesus made before this, BPB also mentioned that:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17172064 - this would be a sale of 2.6

Since that sale was old, 2.5 seems close enough.

The scorching hetman was ~2 buds and you need to calculate overpay. Downvote

It's 2.1-2.9 (2.5 mid range) and the mining light was offered, so no overpay is calculated. grimdercell is correct.

Alright. Maybe he doesn't need to calculate overpay, but the hetmans price at the time of sale was barely 2 buds.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/534a3cb74cd7b8fc198b4abe - my suggestion on the scorching hetman was accepted 19 hours ago.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18872599 - was close 16 hours ago.

So what seems to be the problem?

There are other unusuals in the closed trade. He offered the mining light close to 21 hours ago (before your suggestion)

The scorching hetman was never "barely 2 buds" to be precise. The price of the hetman was 8 months ago, and the seller had plenty of time to check the previous sales to see that none of the hetman has been sold for less than 2 buds for a few months already. backpack.tf is a pricing guide, not a price which you must strictly follow. Most of the unusual prices are outdated to begin with.

I don't find your proof sufficient since you don't have any valid sales at all. Either they're unpriced, duped, or outdated. The hetman he got for his mining light was duped with an outdated price.

Downvote it then, suit yourself, you don't even know how unusual pricing works, Explaining it to someone who won't accept that they're wrong seems like a waste of time to me.

Lol... Explain to me in what way i don't know how unusual pricing works. I'm just trying to provide valid counterproof since you don't have any valid proof at all.

"The hetman he got for his mining light was duped with an outdated price."

If you could be less ignorant and take some time to read the first line, that'll be great:

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/534a3cb74cd7b8fc198b4abe

But it seems as if you're incapable of doing so, let me just copy paste it for you here:

"10 month old price, using ALL DUPED sales. There aren't any clean ones available in the market."

Also, price was updated yesterday, you can't miss it, its just page 2 of the accepted suggestions.

I'm just trying to provide valid counterproof

I haven't seen any, mind pointing it out?

I don't find your proof sufficient since you don't have any valid sales

If the first link isn't a valid sale, then what is?

Explain to me in what way i don't know how unusual pricing works

You don't even have any accepted suggestions for a unique item, let alone unusuals. Whereas I have 109 accepted unusual suggestions. Self-explanatory?

Does the amount of accepted suggestions i have make me unable to comment/vote? I don't think so buddy. And also, there is absolutely no need to insult me, I'm just trying to help setting an accurate price... You have got to understand that you need to use the original price at the time of sale and not the current one. The first link is the only valid one you have to my knowledge. And also, why would i research whether there are any unduped scorching hetmans in existance? Thanks for telling me that but you're really calling me ignorant for not looking that up?

Like I said, if you're unable to accept what I just told you earlier, just hit the downvote button or whatever and move along. Its not as if I didn't try to explain it to you, its just that you won't accept it. I've said what I wanted to say, you may open a counter suggestion if you wish.

I don't even know what you're talking about... You make absolutely no sense. What have i not accepted exactly? I "accepted" that you're first link is valid but from what i understand you need 2 sales. I have not seen that. I may as well just upvote because users with many accepted suggestions get blind upvotes and the admins don't exactly analyse every single suggestion thurley (understandably). I'm guessing that i won't get a good response with proof so im just going to leave this suggestion for now. Have a nice day.

Don't start that "users with many accepted suggestions get blind upvotes and the admins don't exactly analyse every single suggestion thurley' here when you don't know how the system works.

Also, any experienced suggestor will know that the 2 sale rule works with new effects as stated below here:

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-new-unusual-price-suggestion-guide-the-cheat-sheet/

"Two sales are required to establish a range on all new hats / hats with new effects. If the two sales are discrepant, a third sale is required to determine the outlier. New effects include – 2013 summer, robo, and Halloween effects. For help on identifying outliers and discrepant sales, please refer to the complete guide or ask for help in the forums."

Though this is for pricing new unusuals, you'll get the idea when you read it.

Green Energy is first gen, and mining lights are retired. That rule does not apply here.

Thank you and have a nice day. The thing about blind upvotes is 100% true however.

considering the hetmans was recently updated to having a 2.5 median, and there is the 2.6 sale, I have no issue with this as a bump up