Suggestion: The Birdman of Australiacatraz at 3.66–4 ref

you only have 2 outpost trades for 3.66 and one sold without a bump. 3.66 sells quickly and is not commonly traded. i've sold 3-4 in the past few days, having no trouble getting 4 ref for them, and 4 ref seems to be by far the most commonly traded point.

welll both are sold in a day so sold quickly and i have buyers of that range + sellers on that range :) and people don't even have trouble selling it for 3.66 :)

of course they don't have trouble selling below market value, that's my point. if something sells very quickly, that's not valid proof. this price should reflect the most commonly traded price, which is 4 ref. your proof shows that; you have only 2 outpost trades for 3.66, which doesn't prove that it's commonly traded, and 1 was definitely a quicksell so it doesn't count to support 3.66 being in the range.

any thing just below its original value doesn't means quick sell!!!!!!

if 3.66 is a qs give me proofs

provide me proofs without bumps :)

okay, your first outpost trade where it has never been bumped and still sold. provide me a ton more valid sales at 3.66, prove that it's a commonly traded price, not just one or two trades which are liable to go quickly.

The first outpost trade link is 3 reffs i am talking about "3.66 reffs"

And provide me your links don't give me my links

i'm starting to realise that you just don't understand. i don't have to prove anything. you have only 2 outpost links to put 3.66 in the range. it is not commonly traded for this item. 4 remains far and away the most commonly traded price, which is what the price is supposed to reflect. of your two 3.66 links, one has sold without being bumped. that's the definition of quicksell. so that's invalid. so you have 1 valid sale at 3.66; and you need many sales at 3.66 to justify having it in the range. also i meant your first link for 3.66, of course. anything below market value isn't necessarily quicksell, but it seems like it is here. your 2 unsolds are both young, badly bumped, and one was stupid enough to put 8 ref up so it's hardly suprising they're not sold. again, invalid proof. 1 link to support 3.66 doesn't cut it.

disliking my posts won't make me wrong ;)

No, but if it sells within 24 hours it generally is...

That's the point. If it sells really easily for 3.66ref then that makes it a qs so it shouldn't be dropped

Well it obviously is easy to sell below the price on btpf. People will go "Oooh.. it's less than 4ref" then they buy it within 24 hours - aka. A QUICKSALE. There is no difficulty in selling it for 4 ref and that is the most common trading price so it should stay at 4 ref. And stop saying reffs...

well there were many trade who were bumping for 3.66 :) and i am still wid 4 reffs but i am not flatting the price to 3.66 i am wid both 3.66 and 4 reffs bro :)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19276706 unsold for 3.66 bumping for sales

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19270870 unsold for 3.66

http://www.trade.tf/trade/529778133 sold for 3.66

3.66reffs is not a q.s sale value

they're both sold in 1 day

well they were bumped for sale :)

i guess now i have more 3.66 sold and they all are not QS :)

well i have provided proofs of the low end also and i have commented down there if u have more prooofs please post it

He still has 4 ref in range, and he's showing 3.66 solds to support his low-end.

good name for this sort of thing.

Not enough proof for your low end, most <4ref sales are QS. And this item is fairly easy to sell at 4ref, I don't think it needs a drop - proof is not strong enough to prove it either.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19246327 if is a qs then why his item is not sold yet why is he bumping?

updated links

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19230009 sold 3 reffs qs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19242913 sold 3 reffs qs

http://www.trade.tf/trade/529748259 sod for 3.33 qs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19212821 sold for 3.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19245878 for 3.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19262606 sold for 3.66

http://www.trade.tf/trade/529955204 sold for 3.66

http://www.trade.tf/trade/529929417 sold for 3.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19223630 sold 3.66

http://www.trade.tf/trade/530025178 sold for 3.77

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19217499 sold for 3.77

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19232779 sold for 3.88

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19213244 sold for 4 reffs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19218328 sold for 4 reffs

http://www.trade.tf/trade/529901379 sold quickly for 4 reffs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19222258 sold for 4 reffs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19246820 sold for 4 reffs item not in bp

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19241833 sold for 4 reffs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19235465 sold for 4 reffs

http://www.trade.tf/trade/529956280 sold for 4 reffs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19216129 sold for 4 reffs

http://www.trade.tf/trade/529939372 sold for 4 reffs

http://www.trade.tf/trade/529068369 sold for 4 reffs

sellers/unsold

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19246327 unsold for3.66 poorly bumping

http://www.trade.tf/trade/529847103 unsold for 3.66

http://www.trade.tf/trade/529848826 unsold for 3.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19265141 unsold for 3.66 (young)

http://www.trade.tf/trade/529834584 unsold for 3.88

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19226863 unsold for 4 reffs bumping

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19250557 unsold for 4 reffs bumping

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19213244 unsold for 4 reffs

http://www.trade.tf/trade/529874699 unsold for 4 reffs

http://www.trade.tf/trade/529070320 unsold for 4reffs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19245448 unsold for 4 reffs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19222351 unsold for 4reffs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19241833 unsold for 4 reffs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19240425 unsold for 4 reffs painted

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52c8ac004dd7b89f768b456b/1 all selling for 4 reffs

buyers/bought

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19250086 bought for 3.66

to many links if i just duplicated sorry for that -_-

if u have more proofs other then this i guess u wont have any other then the above stated but if any feel free to post

liked it upvote it:)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19246327 sold after too many bumps @3.66

just sold mine for 4.33

http://imgur.com/UW90z5V - sorry, didnt have the time to make the printscreen until now

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19265141 sold for 3.66

4 ref solds:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19326973 - 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19323872 - 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19348770 - 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19322863 - 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19339023 - 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19337488 - 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19337046 - 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19334929 - 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19334363 - 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19333003 - 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19333048 - 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19353231 - 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19351778 - 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19355305 - 4.33 ref

No need to lower this. 3.66 is a sure quicksell and 4 ref sells decently.

So distribution of sales from what I'm seeing:

3 ref - 2

3.33 ref - 1

3.66 ref - 8

3.77 ref - 2

3.88 ref - 1

4 ref - 26

4.33 ref - 1

My math might be off since some might be duplicates, but I'm also having a hard time finding any on outpost for 3.66. I see a few at 3.88.

Given this distribution, I'm inclined to conclude that 4 ref is still better than 3.66-4. Feel free to provide more proof justifying the inclusion of 3.66. But right now there are just a lot more sales at 4 than 3.66

3.66 ref has been sufficiently proven to be a quicksell price, and general concensus in the comments is that it doesn't belong in range.

Closing.