Suggestion: Miami Nights Crone's Dome at 192.5–261.8 keys

Price Suggestion

~95.5 keys

miami

141 votes up

10 votes down

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This suggestion was closed Sun, 27 Apr 14 14:47:24 +0000 by the submitter.

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Resuggesting. Thank you, Kaushu, Blind Polar Bear for the input.

No longer a conservative drop, please note that there is 1 available for 10 buds in the market and hasn't been sold for 11 days.

Sold with gifted green energy hot dogger (2.41) for arcana headsplitter (15.5 buds - excluding crone sale as stated by Blind Polar Bear in the previous closed suggestion, headsplitter was offered) ~ 13.1 buds:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18227268

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198013080911?time=1395558000 - before

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198013080911?time=1395730800 - after

Gifted GE hotdogger notable offers:

2.4 buds

47 keys

Using 2.4 buds here, since 47 keys is ~2.41.

Sold for most probably 450 USD ~ 13.63 buds:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18514369

Sold with 6.8 buds for a disco crone (27.5) ~ 20.7 buds (outlier):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18750150

B/Os:

10 buds (combined total of 11 days):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19180057

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19047133

'Quickselling for 15 buds (3 weeks):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18704597

did mizore just go alt rage and disliked the whole comments section?

And liked his and Laughing only.

must've wasted hours of his life creating those alts for the sole purpose of disliking ppl's comment.

Let's hope this one doesn't turn into another train-wreck of comment insults.

He can create all the alt he wants, they will all be banned anyway. As long as we don't feed or respond to his raging comments, there's nothing he can do and he'll just be wasting his time.

Well, that didn't last long.

I'm quite amused by the fact that he went through the trouble to create 4 new accounts just for this suggestion.

I know, I mean you need a valid email with each account right? Going through hotmail to validate a new account each time has to be a pain.

RIP Miami Nights, good riddance.

I like Miami, but i'm not gonna pay more than low-mid tier effects for it.

I feel sorry for you, quite a serious case of bipolar autism, but all of those are just buyouts and kaw is overpriced on any hat. I also like how you ignored the b/o of 10 that lasted 4 days.

Also nice job disliking my comment, you're over here insulting people on bp.tf when you're the one who acts like a child.

Buyouts are fine for lowering the price but not for bumping it up.^^

I warned your comment because of your attitude and not to "hide evidence" (everyone can still see warned comments btw).

So 15 is unsold for 3 weeks and 10 is unsold for 11 days. So what do you think is going to happen next? That it sell for 15 pure? Surely not.

They really need to get an age restriction on this website. Why do you think you're more superior than everyone here?

Anyways, I'm upvoting later

Actually a proper fix would be needing a certain score to comment or make suggestions. This would at least halt the alts with 0 score from doing this and prevent new users from making a ton of bad proof-less suggestions since they'd be forced to at least view and vote on some suggestions beforehand to get a knowledge of how things work.

A lot of people can afford to buy a 10 bud quicksell. If it was actually a quicksell it would sell very quickly.

15 is not being counted as a quicksell.

"Quickselling" for 15 buds (3 weeks) - this means it is not in fact a quicksell and has been unsold for a while.

If a hat doesn't sell for 10 in two weeks, why should it be valued higher than that? See if a beams stash (close to the same current range) takes as long to sell if it gets put on the market for even 15. If a hat doesn't sell for 10 based on a b/o, then it needs to be updated. The b/os at 20 are useless. They provide no information at all about what this actually trades at.

so now quicksale timeframe is 4 days?

lol.

Pretty sure I've seen admins defending shit that was sitting for months because it was "high tier".

Ps there are none for sale for 10 and none have sold for 10.

Your buyout was 10 and you changed it to 100 because you're crying over your bp loss.

Nice try trying to manipulate the market, you even deleted your notes where you were asking for 10 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19047133 it wasn't 4 days, you're lying to try to make this suggestion fail, and you're saying I'm killing the community? Luckily you can't hide your own offers anymore http://i.imgur.com/fSwojns.png nice try!!

none are for sale for 10.

none have sold for 10.

you're an inflammatory troll.

And you're going to get a bannu for attempted price manipulation :D

seller does not have right to change mind?

gl w/ that.

Of course he does, but when he changes his notes because the unsold b/o of 10 was being used as proof, it comes off as manipulative, amirite?

Last I checked they are my notes and I can do whatever I like with them?

I'll go list it as sold for a burning ke if you like?

I am under no obligation to prove anything I say on outpost.

Please provide evidence that either of these statements is wrong.

1) There are no miami crone's for sale for 10 buds.

2) No miami crone's has ever sold for 10 buds.

If you have a screenshot of the inventory history by all means go ahead!

You had more than a week, and couldn't sell for 10, now you're manipulating. Just stop trying, no ones falling for it... all the real proof is in front of you.

- and of course, you rage dislike my comment before even reading it

So you had it up at 10 for a total of 11 days? Hmm. That's borderline for me

Don't see how you can price a hat with a retracted b/o with no sale.

Terms seem pretty clear on you have a sale or you have a b/o.

And considering my reevaluation there's certainly no b/o. And there wasn't a sale at 10.

Well, common sense is common sense. If someone was selling for almost 2 weeks with a b/o of 10 with no takers, it obviously provides information about the value of the hat.

common sense also says that for 10 pure you can get 15 in hats ez right now.

when hat vs hat sales are considered as full price and someone else takes pure sure they take less, because pure underpay is not a concept understood by most.

I won't disagree with you. Our overpay calculation of 10% is very conservative. Really, all our prices on this site are meant to be the prices of hats in pure only.

Don't worry polar bear, he's just using alts to dislike your comments and like his.

I see he didn't listen to a word I said on the other suggestion.

Nope, now we just have a second person who is semi-raging. This suggestion has some fun times.

I love how you guys don't bother including another valid sale as evidence just because it throws off your incorrect idea that the price is dropping

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18979421 killawatt crones +3 sold for a miami crones.

pricing the killawatt crones at 16 because it sold for a dead prez ke (12.6 w/ overpay) + 2 buds, so that's 17.6, which makes the disco crones sale less of an outlier.

I love how the mods can't even bother commenting on that. ridiculous pricing going on here

also gotta love the counting 15 as a quicksale, yet counting the 10 (which changed) as something else. hey mods how many items do i have to fork over to you so i can influence you into accepting bad pricing suggestions approved like the OP does?

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5351fdd84cd7b847468b4b17

KaW crone suggestion, lower than the Miami and still within range~

hate it break it to you bro but you're doing it wrong. 16 is based off of the sale specific to this item's trade, not OP's lazy half-baked suggestion. I love how you guys can't just admit you're wrong and just bad at this.

I love how you still think the kill a watt crones is still 16: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5351fdd84cd7b847468b4b17

looks like you're having just as many issues pricing that hat as this one and resorting to the same lazy tactic of calling the other sales outliers. killawatt at 16 is fair because that's what I paid and this specific to that one sale before you posted another half-baked useless suggestion.

Your slopping pricing doesn't change the value in this trade for the killa. gtfo

oh my bad guyz the overpay for the dead prez ke should be 12.96 instead of 12.6 so that's 17.96 = 18 buds. making your suggestion even more laughable and the disco even less of an outlier (not to mention it's not an outlier bc it's well within range in the previous suggestion, get it together). you should correct that OP, so you can at least feign trying to post legit suggestions.

How about only allowing people with certain amount backpack value to respond, then comment spam like this would't happen.

Seeing these alts probably have like no backpack value anyway.

it isn't spam, dip. you stll cant refute the evidence you idiotic bias fuck. I love how you like everyone else can't even bother addressing evidence that this suggestion is inaccurate and do whatever you can to silence it.

nothing in backpack, point proven :)

^idiot who cant read, point proven. :)

The amount of alts he used to dislike your comments is insane

your proof is very weak to dictate a 43% drop in a hats value after a suggestion was accepted less than a month ago

find more sales to justify your range before you earn my vote

One I.P. ban sandvich for Mizore, comin' right up.

Note to moderators in charge: A new sale took place:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19078123 - sold for a flaming lantern cannonball + 9 keys (7.6, disregarding the miami crones sale)

Outlier, but just to show that a sale took place for lower than the current range (and below 10 buds as well).

Also, this is the reason why Mizore stopped shit posting here, he got another hat. Expect him to shit post at the lantern cannonball suggestion when he's online.

It sold again here: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19380854 for lantern bomber + burning cockswain which is probably 16 after overpay?

Eh.......

Wut......

but then again, we have this at 15 (http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18704597) and still unsold. Idk

Then there's this sale.

Sold for a darkblaze war pig (11.7 buds after overpay):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18995182

The darkblaze war pig was bought for anti freeze company man (13 buds), its the most recent sale and only one in the market:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17664713 - the war pig

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16880171 - the company man

Upvote, proof is good and enough to drop mizores bp.

Upvote, good proofz and anything that angers idiots is right in my book ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) sumbodee accept dis shet nao pl0x

Mizore, you got too much time on your hands. Go outside and look at some grass once in a while like it seems you made like 10^ alts just too keep your bp price up.

Anyways looks fine, just if this thing didn't have 64 comments, it would of been a normal unusual suggestion...

So, from what I'm gathering, the sales here (including sweets) are:

(1) Headsplitter trade ~13

(2) 450 USD: 13.6

(3) Crones ~20.7

(4) KAW crones ~13

(5) Cannonball ~11.5 maybe

(6) War Pig ~11.7

(7) Lantern Bomber ~16

We have enough sales here that this should be based on the sales. 10 (B/O), 11.5, 11.7, 13, 13, 13.6, 15 (B/O), 16, 20.

Given the month old b/o at 15, the two high sales are probably outliers (the disco crones probably needs an update. I'd throw out the two high end sales and the two low end values of 10 and 11.5 and set the range here at 11.7-13.6.