Suggestion: Nuts n' Bolts Stately Steel Toe at 11–13 keys

Price Suggestion

~6.75 keys

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This suggestion was accepted Mon, 28 Apr 14 18:19:43 +0000 by polar.

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About 8 hours ago the price has been raised from ~11.5 Keys to 13 Keys.

My reasons to resuggest the price.

1. As I know, at least two trades are usually needed to change the price.

2. Prices with a low and a high range are more accurate.

3. "I wish Volpii had made the suggestion, just so I could see that owns 34 next to the price" - [EFR] TheKaushuMan™

There you go, mate

4. I own 34, deal with it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8442248

Proof:

Low end - http://puu.sh/8pnmb.png

If you think that this sale is too old, Kaushu got Toe#34 for 11 Keys before he sold it to me http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18644380

High end - http://i.imgur.com/F3UlhOj.jpg

Definitely a trick to lower bp value. Especially since first sale is >3 months old

Omg, owns 34, I am so proud a trader would do this

*42*

Low-end comes from an Outdated sale. January 2nd was 3 months ago

Second sale at 11 looks like a quicksell since Kaushu commented right when the trade was made

Also, under "My reasons to resuggest the price." should be:

5. I want to pay less than 13 keys for these because if the price on backpack.tf is 13 keys, it's what I have to pay

Good, then we get more into the past.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18627801 Still Toe#34, he accepted a Bubbling Dread Knot (11-12 Keys back then) from me but sold it 10 minutes before I could get online.

With overpay, the Dread would be ~10.3 keys (not 11 keys) which can be considered an Outlier considering quicksales at 11 keys pure

"Also, under "My reasons to resuggest the price." should be:

5. I want to pay less than 13 keys for these because if the price on backpack.tf is 13 keys, it's what I have to pay"

I should have posted dem smileys when I wrote this in the forum so anybody could get that I was joking..

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/statuses/user/176-volpiii/?status_id=33296

"Now I need to pay more for the other Toes "

O'rly?

low end is outdated

kaushus trade was done in a day + another guy interested = quicksale

i won't allow that your bp value drops

3 months =/= outdated since there have been only 4 trades, 3 of them were around 11 Keys or less.

If a trade is done in a day it isn't a quicksale. Just imagine what would happen if the keymarket would follow such a rule. A quicksale is when a person is trying to sell a hat really quick on purpose, i.e. massive discounts.

The other guy who was interested? Please, everybody would try to offer 8 +/- Keys on a low tier unusual with NnB just to get profit.

3 months is still outdated, no matter how many sales there have been. Unless it's a one of one hat that will never be sold again.

Kaushu commented immediately after the trade was created and the trade closed in a minute. That is a quicksale

A quicksell is an item that sells quickly for someone's asking price, intentional or not.

I remember a lot of high tier scout, soldier and demo unusuals which have been sold within a day for their price, yet the trades were taken like normal sales on suggestion.

There is huge difference between a quicksale and a hat which sold quickly.

Sold within a minute and paid with pure though?

And that may be, but both are counted the same in suggestions: they aren't accepted as proof

Probably not a "huge difference" either. They're very similar.

"Sold within a minute and paid with pure though?"

He had a price, somebody paid the price. 11 Keys was already in the old range as the low end.

Btw. I had some people in the past who added me 10 minutes after I opened a trade to pay my price (usually the highest end) - Did I quicksell my hats? I don't think so.

Still a quicksale

Lemme put it like this:

If Shogun's Shoulder Guards sell quickly at 5 ref, the current price, then that would mean an increase, would be in order

"Probably not a "huge difference" either. They're very similar."

It is a huge difference.

Quickly sold = Buyout/price has been paid in short time; occurs randomly + doesn't matter if the price is a bit higher/lower than usually.

Quicksale = Seller is trying to sell the hat quickly by reducing the price, occurs only on purpose by the seller.

Selling for fast and quick pure

and

Getting fast and quick pure

is not a huge difference

Either way, if this is the case, it's a quicksell. You could ask a mod about it instead of arguing with me though

Or look up the definition of a "quicksell"

Look it up? Fine.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Quicksell

Edit: It doesn't seem to be right at all in the definition. "profit" should be "pure".

<UD

"I remember a lot of high tier scout, soldier and demo unusuals which have been sold within a day for their price, yet the trades were taken like normal sales on suggestion."

for rising prices or for lowering them ?

Rising a bit or making the range closer.

quicksells can be used for rising the price

they kinda show the current range is invalid

my dream :D it came true

I was extremely lucky to buy it imo, I literally just checked the toe market for the first time in a long time and saw one new one was there, and it had just sold. I refreshed the new owner's page, and there was the trade.

Not entirely sure about 11, as I got extremely lucky and added him 10 seconds in his trade. There is that other sale though...