Suggestion: Smoking Pampered Pyro at 19.25 keys

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Smoking Pampered Pyro

Submitted Tue, 29 Apr 14 10:25:58 +0000 by ★ NecroTed

97.96%

n/a

19.25 keys

~14 keys

smoking

96 votes up

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Proof below. Overpay calculated. Original prices used

Sales

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198060581069?time=1391241600 ---> http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198060581069?time=1391328000

1 bud

http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,1972592527,30139,5 ---> http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2295802933,143,6

1 bud

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17617144 - Spec. KS Aussie BB = 2 buds (outlier)

Help / Constructive Criticism / Additional Proof / Counter-Proof is ALWAYS welcome! >;3

Isn't the first 4 links only count for one sale ... this could just be layout (edit: it's not)? You might want to re think this.... Also the outlier trade is from Jan the 31st (not that you used it)

You need 2 sales to set a new price....

What? Use grammar mate xD

Plus, the 2 sale rule is for unpriced, new-effect unusuals. The 2nd sale is more of a back-up

You only have 1 valid sale. 1 sale is not enough proof to price a hat, which is what you are doing. The last sale (outlier) isn't your second sale and would be too old to use anyway. The second one i think you mean from uber ping -> sun chalk which is much too old.

Those are two different sales. And yes, 1 sale would've been enough , but I got two sales :3 First is from ( ͡° ͜TROJANʖ ͡°) #heh to paterik, second is ÜBER PING to {SuN} Chalk.

Take a look at this:

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5355ba9a4cd7b8464f8b4cdb

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/535130d04cd7b8f8498b492f

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/534675bc4cd7b858098b4a19

All passed with one sale

✖ NEW unusuals need at least two sales. Unusual hats with no previous price cannot be priced with a single sale. There needs to be at least two sales in order to ensure that they are not being priced off outliers or quicksells. If the two trades so far are very far apart, wait for a third. Click for more info and questions.

✖ DO NOT use outdated proof. How old is outdated? That can vary from unusual to unusual, depending on how rare it is and how often it is traded. A good length of time is 1 month. Try not to provide proof older than 1 month if at all possible.

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/7-how-to-create-a-good-unusual-price-suggestion/

Sales older than 2 months old are not valid proof; this does not mean that they are not useful - please see full guide for how to use older sales in the context of new sales. The one exception to point out here is for very rare hats. If there have only been 1-2 sales in the last 3 months, a trade up to 3 months old is okay to use as proof to establish more data points. Keep in mind, new sales should take precedence over older ones.

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-new-unusual-price-suggestion-guide-the-cheat-sheet/

Edit: this hat has had 6 owners, surely it is traded enough to count for the 1-2 month max rule.

'cause i don't want you to fail:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17361982

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17584593

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17657625

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17678028

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17779196

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18849797

1. Ask any of the mods, they'll say that new hats with old effects are enough with 2 sales.

2. Using 2nd sale as backup proof.

3. I can't extract anymore valid sales from the other owners (sales from most recent):

* http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17779196 - Involved a Phosphorous Dixie - 10 months old price - Prices over 3 months old make for invalid proof.

* http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17678028 - Same story as the above sale

* http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17657625 - This was my first sale

* http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17617144 - This was my 2nd sale (It's an outlier)

* http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,1972592527,30139,5 - Uber Ping was my 3rd backup sale.

So no, there's no more proof.

I think we should wait until http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18849797 sells it. I looked at the proof too and saw it was messy and old. Also the rules gives no exceptions based off effect, simply off rarity. (and still no older than 3 months)

Also on all the suggests you passed with 1 sale had offers in that range too.

Edit:

Well you seem to have a way with suggestions, hopefully you are representing the hat's market correctly.

Also the only offer on the pampered from the only open trade:

A Killstreak Australium Tomislav , an Unusual Madame Dixie with Blizzardy Storm and some sweets for the Pampered Pyro ?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18849797

so....?

Let's just let the mods take care of this. I myself am confident in this suggestion, unless the sales themselves seem to be outliers and the price too low (or too high xD).