Suggestion: The Front Runner at 1.66 ref

Price Suggestion

~1.66 ref

406 votes up

31 votes down

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This suggestion was accepted Sun, 04 May 14 00:42:59 +0000 by polar.

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Sellers -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19552867 - 1.55

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19506007 - 1.55

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19546277 - 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19491255 - 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19555436 - 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19543146 - 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19558125 - 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19418243 - 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19529446 - 1,77~

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19509023 - 1.77

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19560883 - 1.77

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19391368 - 1.77

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19441398 - 1.88

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19549230 - 1.88

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19489710 - 2.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19558951 - 2.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19330607 - 2.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19053574 - 2.00

Nice suggestion, upboat and I see you're nearly at 1K approved

fanboy......

Wow, I can't congratulate somebody??

well, i just dont like when someone is affected by symphaties when voting on his suggestion. and its kinda obvious here...

the proof looks fine, that's why he's upvoting, you're downvoting due to a bias that is growing apparently obvious (you buy and resell this item (sometimes), therefore don't want to see it devalued)

if price drops.. i would adapt of course... so i would buy it cheaper (there are always quicksellers) and sell it cheaper than before. same profit. so it doesnt bother me. just saying this suggestion is bad, cause people are buying it for 2 refs.

^ This guy

Meant to point 1 more up, sorry vrakos :D

sorry, but another of your fail suggestions. its selling for 2 refs kinda good. just remember brush of death when you was accepted but instantly price was again raised....

downvote. hey man... you are doing it wrong. if it will be accepted, expect it will be again re-suggested to original price.

you dont trade with it..you dont know... im...

edit: sure, downscore it, but its truth, he had suggestion on brush of death that was accepted, but it was fail, so it was again repriced not a day after it... just fanboys voting i guess...

some proofs (will be updated).. take in notice im trading only 1 at a time...

http://i57.tinypic.com/vzfzic.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/a3cfae.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/zy8t9i.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/30k4ww2.jpg

and its only my trades... and i dont have it always in offer...

Only your first link is recent enough to be valid, the other two are far to old for such a common item like this. One link isn't quite enough to disprove. Fourth link is even older than the second and third, not helping your case here.

4 links... from 1 trader.. who trades only 1 same item at a time.... says it can be sold for 2 refs anytime... i just dont understand you...

he says they're too old, what's there not too get?

ok, we are dumping 2 month old price (actually 2 ref is 11 month old).. so 1-3 week old solds are not valid? this proofs just says, it can be sold for 2 refs every few days...

there's a 13 day gap between your first and 2nd links' time stamps. almost 2 weeks =/= "a few days"

as i said, im not trading this item all the time... you think i have always a front runner in offer? just think please...

than you shouldn't be making assumptions that they can be sold every few days at 2ref if you're not actively trading them

actively trading them... means what? im looking for less then 2.00 refs offers on this item? no im not. i just see some good offer sometime, so i buy it. and sell it in few days with profit. all im saying is... when you want to sell this item for 2.00 refs you can definitely do it in few days... and thats it all about... this item IS selling for 2.00 refs... downpricing is not needed.

final comment for real this time, "actively trading them... means what? im looking for less then 2.00 refs offers on this item?"

how do you get "look for less than 2.00 refs offers" from me saying actively trading? (inconceivable!)

actively trading these (in my opinion) would mean you are buying and selling several of these (at least) every week. you have not proven that you have been, I doubt that you have been

so yes, active trading in your opinion means, im looking for offers for less than 2.00 refs. and no, im not doing it. but still... all im saying is.. if you have this item, you can sell it in few days for 2.00 refs... thats why i think this suggestion is bad. tear me apart...

Because 3 of your sales are from 2 1/2 weeks to 1 month old practically. Items like this which are more frequent and common have a set time about a week after the sale to be valid. The market changes often, some items can drop even after a day or two, that's how it works.

surely price of this cosmetic changes every few days... yes...

A statement as an example of how the market can change suddenly, not to be taken literally for this item. Though if you really want to keep 2 ref in the range, find at least 10 valid sales at 2 ref within the last week and it should provide enough to counter to some degree.

why would it? it appears to have been fairly stable for a while

vrakos... that was sarcasm... reflected to eldric comment.

[sarcasm is hard to catch when comments are text based....]

it is* "

its" is different

might want to edit that

counter suggest if you think it's wrong [and quit whining, take your issue with the suggester elsewhere]

what does counter suggestion means? that previous suggestion was wrong? please learn me.

ok. again... if downpricing...arent some long unsolds needed? i see only 4 unsolds... is it enough?

as someone said before on other topic... there will be always unsolds...

edit: ok, just tell me why this comment is downscored?

here's a fifth http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19364567 unsold for a week at bptf prices

edit: I can't really tell you why it got disliked, it just seems you're attracting them in here and that's the only reason I can give (note: I did not dislike your comment directly above)

ok.. 5 unsolds from market... i gave you 4 solds from 1 person... seems valid.

If you really are that concerned about saving the 2 ref range.

http://www.trade.tf/classifieds/search/Sell/Unique/Front%20Runner/all/All/1

All listings in the past week are stored on trade.tf, find some valid solds at 2 ref. Good luck.

touche... im too lazy for it. but i believe they are there, cause i dont have problem with selling it for 2 refs.

but... maybe someone wont be so lazy as me... as brush of death has proved (and i still dont understand why his suggestion was accepted, when counter suggestion was acepted not a day after, and proved hew was wrong)...and will show this suggestion is just bad...and allmighty always right ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) | S>BoA MN 25buds is just making it wrong and just for good feeling his suggestion was accepted (cause i dont see any other reason why someone who doesnt trade it, has need to do suggestions on ti).

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17570546 2months unsold at 2ref, there's a 6th

you're missing that some of your solds are somewhat getting to be too old (this is my opinion, I realize some believe them to be too old which I'm inclined to agree with, but not fully). the reasoning is that the price has changed since multiple weeks ago thus solds from multiple weeks ago were made during a time when the item was selling fine at 2, but now it seems it isn't

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19530992 day old, unsold at 2ref, a 7th

I was going to downvote as I've been able to uptrade Runners. You do have a good list of proof though.

Don't you need failed sellers at 2 to take 2 out the range?

He has failed 2.00 ref sellers, look again.

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Proofs looks great!

Accelerating the speed of the car.

I posted a few? Some with weeks unsold.

1 4 days, 1 3 weeks.

I feel like it doesn't really prove much, but that's probably just me.

also have to look at 1.66 sellers, if it doesn't sell at 1.66, why should it sell at 2 :u?

i dont know. why i have sold it many times for 2 refs? kinda weird isnt it? some unsolds for 1.66... some solds for 2.00... just strange... maybe keep range on this item?

4 across about a month is not many. frankly I'm tired, I'm going to do something more productive than argue here. if you have such a problem actually go gather a GOOD amount of counterproof (good means you should be topping the number of unsolds at 2 provided with solds at 2 (that aren't old), also should have more than just your own solds)

isnt it on suggester to make GOOD amount of proofs than counter-proofs?

Solds -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19540770 - 1.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19561022 - 1.66 (painted purple too)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19542890 - 1.66 (painted green too)

http://www.trade.tf/trade/526923970 - 1.66

http://www.trade.tf/trade/527030730 - 1.66

http://www.trade.tf/trade/527014775 - 1.66

http://www.trade.tf/trade/527007235 - 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19545997 - 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19546681 - 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19546421 - 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19550412 - 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19549352 - 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19548884 - 1.66

Sellers -

http://bazaar.tf/trade/790426 - 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19544007 - 1.66

but its definitely can be sold for 2 refs quiet easily... (as my solds proofs... and only my proofs... im not only trader with this item...)

Quite*

If you keep downvoting all the comments that are supporting the suggestion and reply without proof I'm just gonna ignore you.

im giving counter-proofs. valid counter-proofs. they are downscored too... so...why downscoring it is good, and downscoring comments i think are just dumb is bad? its just fanboy madness imho.

not enough counterproof is the general opinion

Either provide counter proof or quit spamming d0's suggestions. You aren't helping your case. At this moment, any sale over 1.66 ref is an outlier. Loads of 1.66 sellers on the market to the point where anything above no longer matters. If 2 ref did sell as easily as you claim it to be, then there wouldn't be 5x the sellers for lower.

P.S. Disliking comments that disagree with you will not assist you in any way possible.

and surely disliking my proofs are fine :)

you barely have any proof. your only proof is 4 solds (some of which people have said are too old) from only yourself (as the trader) and rather poor explanations attempting to back them up

tell me, whats better counter proof, than proof of solds of this price? barely any proof.... ok tell me, what counter proof you would accept? more proofs? there surely are, but not from my solds... if you would try to look for solds of this item, there would be surely tons of solds for 2 refs.

I'm not the one looking to disprove the suggestion, you are. you go look for solds at 2, I'm not doing it for you

Your counter-proof is, but only your own personal sales. One person out of 20 million people does not make up the market. You need sufficient proof. Get better and more proof and you might just make a dent in this suggestion.

1 person shows 4 solds for 2 refs. as you said 1 person out of 20 million... how many solds would make 20 million than? and thats about it.. 1!!! 1 person shows 4 solds... so what if other persons shows counter-proofs....

edit: just wonder, why those logical comments are downscored... :) whats wrong about it? if you downscore, say why you did it :) (some as downscore on counter-proofs...why downscoring counter-proofs? i know... f..b....)

Sold mine for 1.66 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19530577 Upvote

Comments show 1-2 sales at 2 ref and one of the unsolds at 1.77 has sold. Please keep in mind that there will always be successful sellers above and below bp.tf prices. There has been just as much, if not more, proof provided of sales under 1.66, including several at 1.33 and 1.55.

1.66 does seem the most common trade point.