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Cloud 9 Bubble Pipe
Submitted by Grim
~45 keys
cloud 9
Unusual Bubble Pipe Cloud 9
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Sold for 1 bud 12 keys ~ 1.6 buds:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19529454


Sold for 38 keys ~ 2 buds:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19451257


Sold for a gifted 13th hour capotain + sweets ~ more than 1.5 buds, less than 2 buds:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18536549


Gifted Capotain was recently sold for strange ullapool + strange frying pan + strange invis ~ 1.5 buds:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18536549


Previous owner was also willing to accept 2 buds:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18494883


B/Os:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16626344 - 2 buds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19562988 - 2.5 buds < opened new trade

    Link one was a quick sale and so was link 2 because "he was in need of pure"


    So link 2 actually was sold as a quicksell for 2 buds http://i.imgur.com/GD4KuO9.jpg


    And your last price suggestion was only 15 days ago which was accepted and this needs yet another price drop after only 15 days?


    People in need of pure will always quicksell for under bp.tf value, so if your suggested range goes through after the last one which you made 15 days ago, people will quicksell for 1 bud. Then you will be back doing another suggestion in 15 days for what ? 18 - 30 keys?


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      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19529454 can you tell me which part of it looks like a quicksale? As far as I'm concerned, he didn't mentioned anywhere that it was a quicksale, and the fact that someone offered below him asking price prompted him to take that offer. I've said it once, and I'll say it again. It took 3 days only because he took an offer which is lower than his asking price. If the buyer offered that same amount 1 week later because he didn't see this earlier, would it still be a quicksale?


      Also:


      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19451257

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19140726


      He's been quickselling for more than a month, and that didn't get sold for 2 buds within a day. For an item with such a low price, you'd expect it to go off for really fast if its really a quicksale. Everybody wants, and 'needs pure'. That isn't really an excuse to call it a quicksale.


      Moreover, if 2 buds is a quicksale, how do you explain this one http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16626344 which has a b/o of 2 and still unsold? I've been keeping track of all the sales, and this one didn't have a B/O of 2 buds in less that a week. which therefore your argument is invalid.


      You yourself has been selling it for 2.5 for more than a week, http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19474300 , which is below the suggested range, and I don't see a reason why 3 buds, or even 2,5 should be included in the range, seeing that none of your offers are at that price, and none has even sold for more than 2.

        Can i ask why you made a suggestion 15 days ago which got accepted and you are now back making an even lower one only 15 days later?

          3rd gen effects aren't stable in terms of price, I'm sure most traders would know that. If this was a first gen or second gen effect, then a frequent price drop would be questionable. With more and more of this being unboxed as time goes by (there's already 16 C9 bubble pipes), the value is bound to drop frequently until it stabilizes at one point. Face it, most experience trader would know that this hat won't get more than 2 buds now, especially the only other sales right now are below 2 buds, and none has sold for more with one on the market having a B/O of 2 buds for more than a week. Can you tell me with a straight face that 2.6-3 buds is an accurate pricing range now? I don't think so, because if you yourself are unable to sell it for 2.5, which is below the suggested range.

            Im asking why 15 days is a sufficient time length between suggestions on an unusual hat, regardless if I own one or not, are you going to be back in another 15 days wanting another price drop?


            I will ask what i want for hats, tbh i dont really care what I get because it will eventually go for a better hat/pure or market sale.


            Seems to me you should be spending time on other hats, especially as there other bubble pipes with outdated prices than coming back to this one every 15 days, where is the stability in that?

              As you can see, I'm suggesting to lower this by a bud, which is a huge change considering other older unusuals don't drop by this much in 2 weeks. So what is the point of leaving an outdated price here in this site which its main purpose is to give traders an up-to-date price range? So that owners of this hat can still trick other users into thinking that this hat is worth 2.6-3 buds because 'backpack.tf said so?'.


              If you will ask what you want for your hats and don't really care, you wouldn't be here writing all this now.


              Also, about you thinking that I should spend time on other hats, I will suggest what I want. Not trying to be arrogant, I'm just using your words.

                sure, the c9 bubble is an easy 2 buds in items or hats, regardless it's just shame some people come back to the same hat every 15 days to make another suggestion rather than giving the hat a bit more time to maybe stabilize instead of giving the actual outdated hats a bit of attention


                "So what is the point of leaving an outdated price here in this site which its main purpose is to give traders an up-to-date price range? So that owners of this hat can still trick other users into thinking that this hat is worth 2.6-3 buds because 'backpack.tf said so?'"


                price drops every 2 weeks is just another thing that is no good for unsual trading, and are you saying im trying to trick people because my b/o price was around what you yourself suggested only 15 days ago?

                  I have 127 accepted unusual suggestions, and these are a few that I did over the past week or so.


                  http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5365c9444cd7b8387d8b4c35 - 5 months old

                  http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53676c824cd7b8cf148b4934 - 7 months old

                  http://backpack.tf/vote/id/536747204cd7b8ee178b48da - 6 months old

                  http://backpack.tf/vote/id/535738cc4cd7b8602c8b47ce - 8 month old

                  http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5365122b4cd7b81d028b4aee - 1 year old


                  So unlike what you claimed, I actually do give 'actual outdated hats a bit of attention', unlike people who just come to this site to whine about the price drop about their own hats.


                  Get your facts right, before even making this statement.


                  Also, whether I drop it now, or I drop it later, the fact is that this hat has not sold for more that 2 buds and there's one available for 2 buds to even call it a quicksale at this point, unless you can prove otherwise, I rest my case.

                    Whatever 15 days is a ridiculous amount of time

                      Sure it is, so tell me, how accurate is 2.6-3 buds now, base on your experience of having it for 1 week at 2.5?

                        Unsuals take time to sell which Im sure you know or are you forgetting that? Even more so when folk are price suggesting every 15 days


                        There should be a limit on the time you can suggest a new price unless the hat has been effected by an update. Will say one last time, 15 days between suggestions is ridiculous

                          And you were saying how 2 buds is a quicksale when this one has a b/o of 2 for more than a week: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16626344 . So how long more should this go unsold, for it not to be considered a 'quicksale'?

                            He has obviously not had it at 2 buds for the last 4 months so that question is irrelevant, also looks like a trade that is not bumped very often. Im done here, 15 days is joke end of

                              Sure he hasn't. he had that 2 buds price tag a week ago. I don't see how is it irrelevant as I didn't say he had it at 2 buds 4 months ago.

    Link 1 is a QS, took 3 days and the trade was closed later.

      It took 3 days only because he took an offer which is lower than his asking price. If the buyer offered that same amount 1 week later because he didn't see this earlier, would it still be a quicksale? Idk

      Lower than flies. Makes perfect sense.