Suggestion: Green Black Hole Human Cannonball at 210 keys

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~106 keys

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This suggestion was accepted Thu, 22 May 14 18:08:31 +0000 by polar.

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Could've given me like an hour to counterproof that and I would've done it gladly. Little quick on the close button.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19440219 2 buds and a burning bat cannon (SBTWC). 12

I guess you were implying that the KaW BoA was 14. Counter-Counter-proof. Since this is an offer it's not going to be "great proof" with sales and all that. Just common sense and some math.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19169678 Looks like 2:1'ed with a disco view for a PS splitter

B/O on his view was 16 buds and his b/o on the splitter was 30. If we took actual bp.tf values and used that, the boa would come out at -3.3 buds. If you took overpay on the splitter and then subtracted 16 from it, the boa would come out at 11.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17840762 Wanted 8 pure

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19332921 Bought for a secret bicorne + bmoc + 6 keys in mix. Obvious outlier.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19588188 Sold along with a GE bombing for a burning slug. Also wanted only 13 for the boa. Sold the slug for a C9 boa

Mini not really suggestion for the C9 boa

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19609853 wants 11 buds. 6 days. Puts the Kaw Boa somewhere around 9.

Wait. I don't understand this. Is the value coming from just the first link? I don't really get what you're trying to prove with the other links. If you made it a bit easier to understand it'd do your suggestion wonders.

My last suggestion was closed because of an offer of a KaW brotherhood. I'm disproving it in everything but the first link.

inb4 Mizore... again.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53602d3d4dd7b881528b4a7b

Everything you haven't disproved before and then some. Many offers in current range, people willing to pay current range and you have completyely ignored many of the previous counter proofs and still not basing off of backpack.tf prices.. Downvote.

Also, check my trade again.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19576569#p55124804

DP TC - 13.5 buds.

DP Law - Priced 5 days ago at 15-20 and he's adding.

Still haven't addressed about half of my concerns in last suggestion.

Plus, your last suggestion was rejected and you made the exact same suggestion the same day.

Now the TC guy is adding a smoking Fightin Fed. Those offers plus the ones you haven't answered to in the previous suggestion mean there a considerable amount of offers over your suggestion's price.

For the dead presidents tc, there's a suggestion out there pricing it at 6-6.7 buds. As for the law, he's offering you 18, well above your own b/o and other offers, if I were you, I'd've taken it and ran, although I did find a sale of a duped HOUWAR. I'm not replying because I actually have a life outside of my room :P.

1 reply in 3 days. Still not replying to previous stuff. Easy downvote still. Now resorting to small insults as well.

Insults... what? You said yourself that your b/o was 16 and then valued the offer at 15-17 and the fact you're using bp.tf to price unusuals as you so adamantly stated several times throughout the two suggestions means that that offer is a clear outlier. By bp.tf standards the offer is 18. Though I guess the guy's inability to sell it at 15 is a problem that doesn't matter does it? It all has to go by the goddamn bp.tf prices.

For the demonflame modest:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16241825 Added a bit onto a lantern modest. ~10

Salty dog offer is 2 months old. Not much to do there.

Still cherry picking many of the offers to argue against, most of your proof would be better served in different suggestions it seems. It is rich though isn't it? You have a single sale proof and its good enough for you to believe its a price change, but the second there are offers you can't argue against, it's either ignored, an outlier or you dig into months of history to find someone that quicksold the offer long ago. Your arguments are weak and flawed unfortunately.

Do you know why I make a metric shitload of proof? Because bp.tf is largely inaccurate for new effects, which is 80+% of your "counter proof." The law is at least 4 buds higher than all your other offers. The sales I use are usually all within the same month. Please keep in mind that this is the first sale in 6 months and the offers have been around 8-12 realistically.

Except the offers that are clearly over that and you are ignoring blatantly because you can't argue against it.

I've literally disproved every single one of them but the law (which by "bp.tf" standards is way higher than your b/o and other sales/offers) except for the salty one, which is 2 months old and the pullover, which is unpriced.

AND all the ones ignored in previous suggestions? yeah.

That's what I'm referencing to, lol

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19817120#latest Offered on a scorching tyrolean. 11.1. Just a notable mention, not a sale but it was in fact offered on it.

newest sale http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19411119 offered and sold with a couple keys for a cloudy moon lid, outdated, but less than 12

Resuggesting in a bit. gg Donny, gg

Was just gonna reprice this and then price the cloudy moon lid... Why? Because Mizor is an asshole

This has been up for long enough. Newest sale supports the price drop. Accepting as better than current. Can be refined with further sales.