Suggestion: Strange Market Gardener at 1.66 ref

Why the lack of outpost unsolds at 1.88/1.77? For some reason, the majority of traders are still attempting to sell at 2 refined (not in the range) with very limited success (as far as I can tell). I'll add more unsolds at 1.88/1.77 & selling/solds at 1.66 as they mature.

Constructive criticism, proof & counter proof are welcome. Happy voting.

[this is a tad soon :p ]

You think so? 1.88 isn't selling (though admittedly, few people are actually trying) and 1.66 at which there are many up for sale most certainly is.

no, I mean it just got lowered 20 hours ago

So? Suggestions have passed even though they were lowered less than an hour ago. No cool system for normal items.

The last suggestion failed due to insufficient/one sided proof. What is your point?

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5374f5ee4dd7b8c00f8b4a07 <- this is what I mean

Nothing in the rules which suggests this is an issue either way? - http://backpack.tf/rules.

I'm not saying it's against the rules :u I'm saying we should try not to lead the market, give it a little time before the previously accepted suggestion, but meh whatever :u staying neutral

The current range is inaccurate as demonstrated by the proof. The sooner its change the better, surely?

This site is about representing the market in its current state, not waiting for it to adjust to the current range which may or may not happen. Proof > speculation... Have counterproof? Cough it up.

All of your 1.66 sellers are very young, and 2 trades are already closed. You'll need more sellers at 1.66.

What would you consider 'very young'? All but two are >1 day and the solds are <2 days which should assure their relevance for the time being, surely?

he means

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19808554 quicksell

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19803520 quicksell

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19811743 under a day old (yeah it's almost a day, but)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19810832 day old, but bumped 23 hours ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19806063 day old, but bumped 4 hours ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19808554 1 day is quicksell?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19803520 1 day is quicksell?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19811743 Would you have me wait a few ours to add the damn thing?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19810832 Fair enough, I suppose.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19806063 4 hours seems fine to me.

It seems like some folks are completely disregarding classifieds? 12 sellers at 1.66 and 6 unsolds at 1.88 are no small matter.

did you check the time stamps?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19808554 open for 14 hours ish

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19803520 sold in 6 hours

I did check the time stamps.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19808554 Bumped 14 hours ago* (relative to its closure? Im unsure).

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19803520 How could you possibly know when it sold?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19808554 well for this, think about it this way, when we first started arguing about this, it was made less than a day ago and the gardener sold already....

and as to the 2nd, historical view of his bp on bptf, end of 5/15 he didn't have it anymore and the trade opened on 5/15 (he did not have one on the 14th)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19808554 Was sold having been open for slightly less than a day therefore '14 hours'? Such logic.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19803520 We know he sold it within a day of opening the trade. Where did 6 hours come from?

If you're going to throw around specific figures, some half decent justification might be nice?

we assume it sold approximately when it was closed, within a day is a quicksell, and if this is grinding your gears so much, prove me wrong

I wouldn't consider 1 day quicksell just as I wouldn't consider it young. This is a subjective issue which cant be proven in favour of either of us unless a distinguished member of the community gives a clear indication as to what is and isn't quicksell.

Additional proof:

Unsold @ 1.88/1.77

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19809041 - 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19813173 - 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19821048 - 17 hours - young

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19821012 - 17 hours - young

Selling/sold @ 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19821736 - young

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19819512 - young

http://i.imgur.com/IWbUdZs.png Drop it all you want, aint gonna stop me.

Such counterproof. Wow.

Seriously though, number of unsolds at 2 refined is ludicrous.

I know, just Ive still been selling for over bp.tf value, hell I sold my last flaregun for a key pure when they dropped to 6 ref lol.

http://i.imgur.com/vumFMCF.png Never gonna break my strriiide~, anyways GL with the suggestion.

from unsolds section [just an update

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19821285 doesn't have a listed price :u but it sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19823356 lowered to 1.66

Guess the guy removed his trade notes before closing O_o.

Cheers for the heads up, would edit if I could. Have staff considered allowing editing past 1 hour for main suggestion posts? Can anyone think of why this wouldn't be a good idea?

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52c8e9b94dd7b812278b4567 quite a few at 1.66

Well, it makes it harder for people to see when proof was added and if the op added more proof etc