Suggestion: Scorching Flames Grenadier's Softcap at 104–113.75 keys

Price Suggestion

~150 keys

scorch

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This suggestion was closed Tue, 24 Jun 14 21:22:33 +0000 by polar.

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Resuggesting with the correct range. Pretty much all the sales in the last suggestion where either wrong or invalid.

YES, I can do that. This is not a new suggestion, its a COUNTER!

1.Sale:

http://screencast.com/t/Ee4eDfwE0 ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18587222 ) - ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18569236 )

Burning solatopi (2.8 buds) + n&b beak (1.7 buds) + massed flies industrial festivizer (1 bud) + bubbling fez (1.1 buds) + nab sultan (10.5 keys) + Black painted tyrolean = 6.7 buds after overpay

6.7 buds

2.Sale:

http://screencast.com/t/zjPBJSeq (Paid 240€ and he got 210€, keys at ~1.76)

~7 buds

3.Sale:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19854730 2:2 with a Cloudy Moon Armored (9.8 buds) + SF Rocket (1.9 buds) = 11.7 - Eerie Fedora (4.5 buds) - b/o of 7

7 buds

4.Sale:

Ghost Kabuto (5.8 buds, no overpay since softcap was offered) + sweets (~11 keys*0.9 = 10 keys = ~0.6 buds) - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18185196 - http://i.imgur.com/clBLoN6.png - http://imgur.com/rn3PeQf

6.4 buds

This is a below 5% refresh - last suggestion was made <1month ago. So this suggestion is also not needed.

Sorry =/

as I said, its a countersuggestion, The accepted suggestion is wrong and based on dupes. The only problem is that it took 20 days to get a final response to my counter suggestion ( 7-7.2 buds) which got declined.

Why did it take 20days?

Suggestion was posted and it got accepted after ~3days, since then no counter & no other recent sales to back this up. The suggested by you is a very small hotfix and 6.4 is in the range already.

Unless you can provide with new offers that are above 6 since the last suggestion I believe this one isn't needed.

Because his last suggestion took 18 days to moderate maybe?

It was posted 23 days ago and accepted 20 days ago. I don't see how that's 18 days.

Talking about this one obviously: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5386499f4dd7b8cd038b46d9

Oh, sorry D:

Once again, your low-end fourth sale is 2 months old. The proof shown is older than the previous suggestion, it is safe to assume that to be invalid.

what should be wrong with it? 2 months is a valid sale.

When the other accepted suggestion is 1 month old, would it be logical to use an even older sale to represent a newer price?

Look at my answer to d0 C:

2 months old is fine. I have had more than 2 months and accepted close to 3 months actually, it depends on the hat and how frequent it hits the market though

Also, basically 2 months or a little bit older than that is fine. 2 months 1 day is fine 2 months 2 days is fine. 2 months 4 days is fine. Had suggestions that got accepted.

I know the time limit for unusual suggesting, I do unusual suggesting.

The problem here is that he is using proof from 2 months ago while the previous suggestion is only 20 days ago. Essentially he is suggesting a new price with old proof.

Ah, my apologies and I know you do ヘ‿ฺヘ

References

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20318618 Offered TW War Pig (6.1)

Offered RA Tyrantium Helmet (Robo) (5.9)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19576666 Unsold at 7 pure for 1 month.

Offered TW Impaler (5.9)

Offered C9 Antlers (8.6) Essentially an outlier compared to all other offers.

Offered DBD Belt (5.2)

I've checked all the offers on the current trades on the market, and I haven't seen any offers of 7 or above.

Offers doesnt count, The Belt is outdated and probably more btw.

The belt doesn't look outdated here: http://i.imgur.com/bdLEwb2.png and is only 24 days old (After the hype)

I know offers don't count as valid proof but it's to give a reference (Hence my heading) because no one is willing to pay that much for this hat.

if there would be a 7+ offer someone would have take it anyways.

There isn't any offer above 6.5...or 6.1 using proof.

It doesnt matter anyways. I dont need offers to back up my range if I got SALES which do that.

Why shouldn't it matter? 1 month unsold at 7 doesn't convince you at all that 7 is a potential outlier?

with 2 sales at 7 in the near past? dont think so.

Edit: and is that unsold even clean?

Looks like you own the duped one. They both seem to attract the same offers, RA Tyrantium, TW Warpig. This is no exception.

whatever. lets stop bitch fighting and see what the mods say about this C:

There's no need to dislike my comment, I'd be intrigued to see what the mods say. More points of view is very beneficial.

I did not dislike a single comment.

Can you show proof that the sale at 6 is an outlier? Offers of 6+ consistently on current trades would help. You can't just throw out a data point without evidence calling it an outlier. A sale at ~6 is not really far enough from 6.4 to justify removing it on the basis of that alone.

we got 4 sales above 6, I think its justified to remove it from the range.

If the sale was at 6.3 would you remove that from the range because there are 4 sales over that? How about 6.2? 6.1? 6? There will always be a low end sale. A low end sale shouldn't be removed just because it is a low end sale.

btw, where is a clean sale at 6 buds?

That PE honchos + 12 keys I pointed out in the last suggestion?

there had been so many now C: link?

Eh. Don't have time to go looking for it atm. Will check for that later. In the meantime, here's another sale at 6.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18746145

And this is the other sale at 6: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18851515 - PE honchos + 12 keys