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*Not manipulation*
Proofs (within the past 2 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20388501 Sold for 1.66 (Not in BP)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20396879 Sold for 1.66 (Not in BP)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20408757 Sold for 1.55 (Not in BP)
http://www.trade.tf/trade/524117941 bp.tf trade, Sold for 1.44 (Not in BP)
http://www.trade.tf/trade/524123020 Sold for 1.44 (Not in BP)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20384405 Sold for 1.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20377362 Sold for 1.44 (Not in BP)
http://www.trade.tf/trade/524131696 bp.tf trade, Sold for 1.33 within a day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20391318 Sold for 1.33 in less than a day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20378675 Sold for 1.33 in less than a day (Used timeline function)
http://www.trade.tf/trade/524092970 Sold for 1.22 in less than a day (Not in BP)
http://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Security%20Shades&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 <-- Classifieds
3 for 1.44
2 for 1.55
Gathering my research of the classifieds on trade.tf, it seems the 1.33 sales are too quick to track. I have researched the shades for the small breaks in my schedule I can; and the 1.33 sellers are up only for literally a couple hours before being taken down for whatever reason, presumably due to sales.
http://www.trade.tf/trade/524117568 Dat Outlier.
If I have messed up in any way; tell me lightly; I don't handle criticism very well.
If you would like me to close the vote; I would need 3 people to say so.
Otherwise; counter-proof accepted!
P.S I am aware of the abundance of 1.33 sellers on the market. It depends on how long they are on the market until they sell.
http://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Security%20Shades&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 Classifieds as of 19th of June
1 for 1.33
2 for 1.44
2 for 1.55
One of the 1.44 sellers have sold in the past 24 hours.
Otherwise, not many new solds/sales on the market as of 8:30 AM 19 June AEST.
In other news; more abundance of 1.33 sellers (#HurryUpAndGetSold)
Classifieds as of 20th June 8:30 AM AEST
1 x 1.44
1 x 1.55 (5 days old however)
1 x 1.66
http://www.trade.tf/trade/523917462 bp.tf listing, sold for 1.66 (He has a spare in bp, DIFFERENT LEVEL)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438351 Sold for 1.44 (Not in BP)
http://www.trade.tf/trade/524023905 Sold for 1.44 (Not in BP)
The 1.33 listing sold. The other 1.44 listing has sold, as well as another 1.55. ALL WITHIN A DAY.
Even though i'm on a hell-iday, I did a scan of the classifieds;
1 x 1.55
1 x 1.66
Solds
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20682065 Sold for 1.44-1.55 (Not in BP) ((I don't know how to feel about this one, the trade is unupdated))
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20666647 Sold for 1.33, less than a day, 7 views
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20663944 Sold for 1.33, less than a day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20656575 Sold for 1.33, less than a day, 4 views
http://www.trade.tf/trade/520259191 Sold for 1.66, Not in BP
UNBELIEVEABLE TRADE http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20685685 Someone offered for 4 ref!? (Probably not proof, but interesting)
Randoms
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20647739 Quicksold at 1.22
About that "UNBELIEVEABLE TRADE", those Shades were level 100 which is why he was able to sell it for 4.
Yea levels increase the price. Check your evidence before you start throwing out random evidence....
There's no need to be rude about it.
when i tried to buy it i couldn't buy it for 1.33 and could barely buy 1 for 1.55 or 1.44 can't remember, needs a conservative bump, upvote
1.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20357946
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20401737
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20416398
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20183022
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20162189
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20495484
I think the range should probably be 1.33-1.66. Even in your own proof yous how that 1.33 happens regularly. And a sale in less than a day is not exactly impressive for a craft hat. 1.33 seems to be readily available on the market.
Well, should I resuggest with the same range or...?
1.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20357946 > sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20401737 > Cancelled. poor bump, 47 views
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20416398 > unbumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20183022 > sold 59 views
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20162189 > sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20495484 > sold
I am fully aware that they sold. But that's more trades I have provided at 1.33 then the original suggester provided at any other value. We try to reflect the most common trade points for items and 1.33 still appears to be one. Based on the proof provided, I don't see enough to remove it from the range.
True, you have given more than the original suggester. 3 days ago it's a no go with your proofs, it's just that 1.33 goes really fast now, and I can hardly find 1.33 refs seller (that will respond) since yesterday.
I don't think thos have to be included, sice especially with craft hats many traders just blindly take backpack.tf price, because they don't really care if they get 1.33 or 1.44.
Many people underestimate the influence of backpack.tf IMO.
I sold mine for 1.55 Refined 3 days ago. Can provide proof if necessary
That would be preferred :P
Counter suggested on this with a better range ^.^
if you own one of the items and you're trying to increase the price it's basically automatically biased.
Well, no, not if there is proof involved.
That means if someone tries to increase the price of ref, everybody with ref will vote yes
But
The admins decide the price suggestions, not the voters.
mucho proof of 1.33 still being an option. Honestly if you had mby 2-3 more sales you could get away with the 1.33-166 range, but it still looks like 1.33-155 is the dominate.
Also bp manipulation should only be considered if there's bad proof. People do increases on their own unusuals because they have good proof. Doesn't matter how much its being raised by.
11 days, wow
why is this still here? its getting retarded