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All proof credit to socket.
Sold for 1 key - https://i.imgur.com/6r4nmvk.png
That's it. None on the market. No other sales.
I don't know why socket closed this but more rep to me : )
He finally sold them? Good on him. My guess as to why he closed it is because he admitted to buying it for 0.77, which is way lower than what he sold it for. I got mine as a bulk deal and a 1:1 unique Halloween trade.
http://i.imgur.com/WHTMunX.png - This was back in mid-May though.
The Manacles (while unpriced), ran me ~0.88 in the end. http://imgur.com/x73IsOU
I'd honestly expect that Key sale to be an outlier since it took Socket since May 11th to sell them: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19737080
He was the only person selling them since early-mid May too.
Just because things take a long time to sell doesn't make them outliers. Especially when there is no other recent proof. These are like collectors items and collectors items often take a while to sell as you have to find someone who wants one. The reasoning of most people I would assume to be Haunted>Unique and if you can get the Haunted for cheaper it's a win/win. These uniques are rarer and are only really wanted by collectors which is what makes them worth more. When selling anything patience is key.
I perfectly understand their rarity. I own about 280 unique 2013 Halloween items almost totaling 2 complete sets (just missing a few). My issue is with the fact that even as a 1:1 on outpost for a little over a month, it took constant relisting to sell at his price. Most unique Halloween items are bought within a week or 2 from what I have seen. My issue also stems from the fact that, while my sale included an unpriced item, it is near what he paid for his Sprinting Cephalopod when you break down what I was able to purchase that item for. Believe me, I want these Unique Halloween items to get a price, but 1 key seems off for this item.
From the trade where you bought it with a few other items and socket's quickbuy, they look more like outliers than the 1 key sale.
I only bought this because I wanted to annoy the shit out of some friends while we MvM.
It was over priced but it was the only one I could find with the owner on-line.
There were others I would have bought for cheaper but I did not want to wait.
Where are the others? I see none on the market.
Well he said, "None on the market"
Inbound "you need two sales to price it".
Upvoted :)
I need explanation polar.
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52f30c7a4cd7b81e618b456c
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52f3068f4cd7b8ad548b456b
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52f304b84cd7b889508b4568
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52f2f3d54cd7b8182b8b456e
There were more on the market when you posted those suggestions which means you could have waited for more proof to present itself. There are none of these on the market.
Bucket had made a rule in the forums that you need at least 2 links on all suggestions. I still won't accept any suggestion with a single link like this. And when asked for advice, I tell people to save links and bookmark trades over a week or month, as necessary, until they get a second usable trade. But some mods have not been following those guidelines.
Just as a hypothetical, whenever the unique manacles do get priced, would that make my purchase valid as proof, or would it still be invalid since the manacles were not priced at the time of purchase?
If the sale was close to the time of the purchase, then it's fine to use that as proof if they get priced. However, if they are priced a month after the sale, you can't reliably say that the value at the time of pricing was the same as the time of the sale.
I think a price based on 1 sale is better than no price at all. The price can always be updated at a later date when more proof presents itself.
I'd like a price too, but an inaccurate price is worse than no price at all.
Why is this inaccurate? I've provided a sale at 1 key and this price also matches and reflects other Halloween items of this rarity.
I never said that THIS price is inaccurate. I'm saying an inaccurate price is worse than no price at all. And for the most part, 1 key is not the value of Unique Halloween items no matter what recent sales tend towards. I got all of mine for ~1-2 ref with some exceptions.
This could turn into the Bird Heads or the Battery Canteens. 1 steep increase because of a shortage of sellers leading to the item constantly needing to be dropped in price.
In which case it can be dropped when the time comes. For now, this is the price it should be as shown by my proof. If you have counter proof, present it.
I proved my purchases above. You may be able to write my purchase off as invalid because it used an unpriced item, but you cannot write off socket's purchase at 0.77 as a quickbuy without proper proof from either socket, or a link to where he purchased it.
Well I can write it off if there's no given proof of it not being a quickbuy. You can't write off his 1 key sale.
I got relinked this. I would write off my 1 key buy.
It is an outlier. This is not something I normally would have bought especially for a key. It was a convenience price as I would have picked up a haunted or cheaper version had I found one buyable at that moment.
You can't just decide that. You bought it. The sale stands.
IMHO, this website has no business pricing items where so few (356) exist that nobody buys or sells them. The price can vary too wildly and there isn't enough information to accurately appraise it.
That aside, your proof should be valid to provide the price given the quantity in existence (356). That said, I would price it at 0.8-1.2 keys or a wider range given the variability of such a rare yet unwanted item.
I'll remain neutral on this one.
To price it at 0.8-1.2 keys, I would need sales at both of those prices. I understand where you're coming from though and appreciate the comment.
You need atleast 2 links of proof, this suggestion is just a failure.
A price off a single sale is iffy at the best of times. With two other sales indicating significantly less, even if through multi-item and quickbuy trades, there is too much doubt to price off the single sale. Another solid sale or at least some form of supporting proof is needed to fully ensure that we aren't pricing off an outlier.
Closing.