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I'm going to try this again....


Trade #1-

First here is a trade where GE mancer + scorching mancer + burning Guadalajara sold for a duped Secret TC(55.4*0.9) = 50 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19752826


Next here is the new price that is most likely going to be the new price for the GE mancer that is being voted in http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53a87f994dd7b847448b4669


So if we take (GE mancer (15 buds) + burning Guadalajara (6.5)) - Secret TC (50 buds) = 28.5 * 0.9 = 25.65


Trade #2 outlier-

http://i.imgur.com/MvuPLVl.jpg

The Burning Bat merryweather price was accepted in the ghost mancer pricing to be valued at 6.15 buds http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53a952334dd7b82b488b4771

(cannon 21 + phantom 7.7 + flamenco 9.8 + 1.375 pure) - merryweather 6.15 = 33.725 * 0.9 = 30.3525


33.725 * 0.90 (for overpay in items) = 30.3525 buds or round to 30 buds pure for the new price of the Scorching Pyromancer


Trade #3 outlier -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19994339

Sold for 10 Buds + 10 Keys + Black Bills + PE Fuka + G.Fetti LuckyShot + 99$(3buds) = 21.125 *0.9 = 19 buds


the Mean of all 3 trades = 25.65+30.3525+19= 25 buds as new scorching mancer price


This price is in correlation with the prices of the scorching mancers being sold on outpost.


The two trades are outliers but they are what the mancer has been sold for so they have to be included in the pricing. These are 3 different trades that all point to one price.


Thank you for your time. I appreciate it

    there is no way in hell a duped tc is worth that much. I would be damned if it is

      I agree but bp.tf doesn't differentiate prices between duped and clean hats. But I guess I kinda actually do believe it would go for high price. I've seen duped TCs go for normal price because it is a high tier effect that is rarely found on the TC

        That does not mean it can be used as evidence without doing a mini price suggestion for the duped tc. To get an accurate suggestion find what duped secret captains have sold for and then do the calculation.

          That does not mean that you can take it at the value of the clean one. All prices on hats on this site are for clean hats only. When trades involve duped hats, you must provide a mini-suggestion with your suggestion proving its value: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-new-unusual-price-suggestion-guide-the-cheat-sheet/


          And that sale shouldn't be used to price the mancer anyways. Mancer was a small part of a large trade. Cannot be accurately priced with so many pieces.

            you're pretty smart polar <3

          holy shiiiiit this guy paid alot for the secret tc duped


          http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198113090293?time=1402642800

          http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198113090293?time=1402729200


          VF is outdated i would assume the value i s closer to 15, didnt check the others but I think it would be best to make the mancer a range instead of calling the 20 an outlier especially since the value of the team captain is unreliable pricing along with the ge mancer which is robably unstable due to the amount of hype atm.

            Even without that trade the average is still 25 buds.