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Please atleast change it to about where the old price was. :/
2 things:
Old price was around 2.33
No proof
Downvote
Who needs proof when everyone knows that the price of keys, buds and metal is fucked up. This community is leaving f2p and new payed players in the dump.
Well, actually those are 3 things ^^
I didnt count downvote, lol :P
"where the old price was". You made your account this year...
I made my account 2 years ago -.-
If so, it's none of your business of the key prices. You barely entered the trading community. So don't be whining about key prices. Welcome to the tf2 trading community
barely? I said 2 years not a week dumbass
I don't see a "2 year medal" on your profile, but it doesn't matter anyways. I don't want to argue, because this suggestion is going to be closed anyways.
http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198135271710 - You made your account 2 months ago. 88 hrs on tf2. You're either an alt, or just very very very very very very very very ignorant and dumb.
2 whole months
You need proof.
Please read the rules
http://backpack.tf/rules
Also these two Helpful guides:
http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/792-how-to-make-a-good-suggestion-bullet-points-version/
http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/3203-guide-making-good-suggestions/
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Backpack.tf says your backpack is 8 ref, i'll pay you 2 reclaimed for it because bp.tf prices are jacked up as you said.
my inner self tells me i should click yes. But no proof.
If you have proof? sure. but you ain't got proof
I don't need any when everyone knows what the real price should be, considering the fact that if keys are worth 8 ref then metal is useless and new tf2 players are left poor in the tf2 community
Look: considering the metal price is 0.24$, the key is 1,99$ or 2,19# on steam in game shop. 0.24$ x 8 ref makes 1.92, You add some reclaimed metals, which makes 1.99$. IMO that's how it works.
metal prices are fucked up too so i will continue to debate about this subject because I have the right to and I have hundreds who agree.
You're one of the people of them many that want it to return to normal as it used to be, but it can't be turned back when people are still succesfully selling it for the current price. Any sort of oppinions in making a suggestion is ignored, you need proof to support your range.
Who needs proof when we have a whole community that is in the dump because of these fucked up prices? You know I'm right :P Sadly the haters are just people who already had keys and are tf2 rich :/
Haters gonna hate. That's all I can say.
I'm piss poor but still, if the market states that "this is the price we've agreed on" then we can't help it. Find buyers and sellers who are willing to do it for 3 ref, THEN people will start.
The problem is most people would follow the prices even when they know that they are fucked up, face it without debates like this the community is fucked anyway.
The prices are not "fucked up".
Mate, this happens in real life too. There's a thing called "inflation" , "supply and demand".
Blame the insanely large amount of players emerging that starts to scrap metals. The more these metal exist, the lower their value goes.
Even there are hundreds of people who agrees with you, there are millions of people who disagrees this, like me.
Not even millions play tf2
What about the number of how many players, playing TF2? Lemme see... Oh yes. 6 MILLION PEOPLE.
more like hundreds of thousands actually.
I'm not trying to tell how many people plays TF2. I'm trying to say that, the people who disagrees this are more than people who agrees this. Another example that opinion doesn't works here.
Opinion is everything.
Well then, if you still think like that and continue doing stupid price suggestions, then you will have a vacation. (ban)
Just saying, you people are leaving new tf2 players without any good items, the tf2 community has not grown very well this year due to this.
If you think like that, do a suggestion that will help "those new TF2 players" WITH PROOF, WITHOUT OPINION.
Hundreds who agree, Thousands who disagree.
I beg to differ.
There will be hundreds of thousands that will disagree, sadly.
This price would be great... but no proof :(
I'd love to, but the whole community will go ape on my ass. I'd click yes, but no proof, no upvotes
There is no need to prove !!
it's the old price and the fair price for these days .
Not everyone can get Keys !!
Before We all were buying keys for metals and unbox !!! but now no one does that because the price , The only guys who unbox crates is who has money and buy keys from the market !!
I say We shall give it a try and return to the old days !
++ 1
YES
Jesus christ, calm down.
1: Learn basic English grammar, please.
2: If 95% of the TF2 community can buy and sell for around the 8.55 mark, the price is 8.55. It's logic.
3: You know those mass unboxes that happen... Every day? Where hundreds to THOUSANDS of keys are used to uncrate?
4: No.
sure the keys are worth like over 2 dollars but if keys keep becoming more expensive people who are new to tf2 wont get any fun out of the community..
It's like You don't have to use keys, or trade to play the game really...
Deal with it, You wanna get unusuals by uncrating (read: want to be rich) You need money
Ha! you really do sound like a snotty rich boy. Guess what? I'm just as north side as any of them but i like to save money too. And i know many people would like to be able to get keys for free off of ref and right now it's not too cheep.
cheap*******
Dude wtf, I'm poor too. I've played like 1k hours tho managed to get enough for a Bill's only, still can't buy it. I pissed of by this key price rising but really use your brain... You think that this will go trough because you beg? Because of people don't have money to buy keys?
Actually I'm not begging, I'm implying. Plus I never said I was poor so i do kinda take that offensively.
" Please pay the full price listed, and please buy this item as i am very poor in the tf2 community. :( "
1. No proof
2. This random drastic change will ruin the tf2 market.
3. Keys will still always rise because of the demand of it
There is no demand for keys increasing in price, they are simply matching the key price in metal with the real price and it's just stupid, we all know it is. There will all ways be keys considering the fact that they are digital pieces of code.
Wheres your proof ?
In the past.
"There is no demand for keys increasing in price"
http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/213511624
Keys are dropping, but not quite this quickly. I really wish I could upboat due to some supporting proof, but you will have to wait a long while for this kind of price to get passed. sorry mate :/
The old price was 1 refined. Good luck getting enough proof for that buddy.
As much as I loved for this price to be accurate, you need proof of sales for thy range.
And don't just say "it was in the past", because this is what the price is NOW.
Debates aren't won off of proof, they are won off of faith.
But suggestions are approved via proof. Read the rules
4 years ago when the first crates were released, these were worth 1 refined.
I like it at around 3 ref because if it's any lower metal is useless, if it's any higher new players spend years getting keys.
You like it at around 3 ref. Therefore everyone must buy and sell for 3 ref. That's not how economy works. If I wanted to buy a Ferrari for $150, it's not gonna happen, even if I say that the price was once lower.
If you can find a reasonable amount of proof.
As much as I'd like this to happen, prices aren't goin' anywhere without sellers or buyers.
I suggest that the price drop shouldn't be THIS big. It took a heft to reduce it by a scrap, this one's not goin' to happen.
EDIT : Not to mention there are scarily increasing numbers of people (at sites such as bazaar.tf) offering a key for 9 ref.
It seems someone forgot that bp does not force anyone to sell at any price, and instead reflects what people are already selling at :^)
I don't care, most people wouldn't want to have most of the tf2 community using backpack's fucked up prices.
If bp is so jacked up, why are you using it...?
Again, this site reflects what everyone is selling the items at of their OWN FREE WILL. Making a forced, inaccurate change here does nothing. None of the key sellers are going to think, "Aw shucks, Lugia successfully got his key price suggestion accepted! Now I HAVE to sell my keys for cheap!" Instead they will laugh, and continue to sell for maximum profit.
That's not how this world works at all idiot, people follow change. People like change for the greater good. (includes dropping prices)
People will follow change, but this is not change. If the backpack.tf price of keys drops, people will continue to use the old prices, or maybe even a different pricing site.
People like change for their OWN good far more than they like change for the "greater" good. See: this thread
I will gladly buy some keys from you at 3.33 btw.
Would you mind if I buy your keys if you ever have any for 3.33 ref?
I would not mind at all. At least your not as non minded as the rest.
Okay, thanks. I will bookmark this suggestion (In case you forget) [Won't add you yet because you don't have any], when you get one. I will knock on your door and gladly take one. Thanks. ^.^
Hahahah, well then I'd gladly take your offer.
If you don't care then why in the name of Nicholas Cage are you using it as a guide?
Get off your soapbox now.
What prices on backpack.tf are "fucked up"? They reflect the market price as accurately as possible.
I WISH it will be like the old time prices.. unfortantly you need proof to make that happen ;(
Everyone wishes to, bud.
Except for those sharks.
Sharks are too busy sharking unusuals.
Lugia my fellow pokemon pal. I will beat your ass with my thunderbolt if you think this is going to pass
get proof
I hope he did notice keys didn't skyrocket in price, it's just metal that skyrocketed down, and you shouldn't scream at us, but you should scream at all the idlers, thank you.
Indeed.
Keys have never risen in price, they're the same since eons ago. (~$1.95-$2.49).
The overabundance of metals is what driving the price of metal to dirt, though.
Hey, who said f2ps NEED to be rich and have hats and shit. All games are meant for fun and for playing. Trading is just something some people do. Free to plays dont need to have value. All they need is the fun from the game.
Too much proof. Downvote.
and too many downvotes to proposer's comments
305 votes
304 with free rep
He's just kidding, right...?
Slow Golfclap
"new tf2 players are left poor in the tf2 community"
That's kinda how EVERYONE starts out. Poor.
Also, this suggestion is still open?
There's gonna be a LOT of warnings when this closes...
God help us allFor new traders who think that keys are expensive at 8.55 ref and constantly want to drop the price so that you can 'afford' it:
1. Buy your keys from the Mann Co Store, their price for keys never change and remains at 2.49 USD.
2. If you are not willing to spend money to buy the keys, then don't complain about keys being expensive at 8.55 ref when you don't even work to get it.
There are ppl who spend money on this game and actually put in the effort to get keys via trading. Don't suggest to drop the price just because you can't afford it, that is just plain selfish.
To everyone else who whines about key price: if it affects you that much, don't play the game, as simple as that. You won't lose anything by doing so.
Didn't it change because market was cheaper? Because it's 1.79 euros when earlier it was 1.99.
It never change in USD afaik. It has always been 2.49 USD for me.
Best suggestion
This drop can kill the market :( downvote If this vote is gettng accepted, tf2 trade is dead and i will leave tf2 too
You do know that mods have to accept it to let it pass right? Its going to be rejected instantly, like every single key-troll suggestion.
Downvoted
No Proof
Typical My old self
If you only had a single link of proof, I'd upvote 10/10
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Once upon a time there was an old wizard with a magical rock, he didn't wanted it, but there were 4 other people that wanted it very badly. So the first person said:"hey! i want that rock, can i have it?", and the wizard was willing to give it away. But seeing this the second person said:"hey! i will give you this cheese piece for the rock", and all of sudden the wizard was really interested in this deal, because he really liked cheese. Seeing this the third guy said:"hey i will give you 2! pieces of cheese for it!", and the wizard was even happier about this deal. And then.. the fourth guy in squeaky voice said:"hey i have half a piece of cheese and its obvious that you cant take more than a half piece of cheese for this rock! otherwise it would be unfair! and i want that rock now!! and if i don't get it, then this community is all fucked up, everyone knows that the world is orbiting around me!", and then everyone mutually agreed to use a spell to make the squeaky person go away.
are u kidding me? 3.55 ref? it will be a HUGE change in price history,if we vote yes,I'll be really excited of this, nothing will be the same.Its ok for me,just strange,I think I think lets go down and down,maybe like that it will be fair. But just think about it! A tour of duty ticket will have more price than a key!
close kkkk
You created your account in may, this year, you don't even have 100 hours of tf2 gaming, and you want to change the value of the mann co key to 3.55 ref ? with no proof ? Sorry, but changing the price of "the" key requires a little more trading experience. (not saying I could)
I've downvoted but I wont -rep you, since i'm sure you did that without the intention of "breaking the trade system" as some users quoted.
I thought the 'Save the Keys' thing was over and done with?
Downvote indeedy.
Good proof.