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Unusual Anger It's a Secret to Everybody
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This, and cloudy moon, definitely needs a drop. Found these 2 sales, and the others are either outliers, or involving many duped high tier hats. I disagree with the other suggestion, as it seems more of an outlier.


Sold for a scorching rifleman (12.7) + 4 buds ~ 16.7 buds:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18436852


Sold for sunbeams company man (15.5, anger was offered) + 1 bud ~ 16.5 buds:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19356285


Other sales:


Sold for a gifted Cloud 9 shaman (10.5) + 4 buds 2 keys pure ~ 14.6 buds:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19628757


Mini for shaman:


Sold with lvl 48 max head + 4 buds for sunbeams cannonball (17.5) ~ 10.5 buds:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20205850


Sold with duped secret tossle for Time Warp Salty Dog + Planets Desert Marauder + a Knifestorm Team Captain + 3.3 pure:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19589646


As for the current trade:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20517682 offer of "24 buds collecting" is total bullshit as the potential buyer's bp looks like this: http://steamcommunity.com/id/1736202/inventory/

    This is ignoring what I paid for mine. If I were you I'd wait a couple of days pending my cash sale that will be processed around the 6th of July. Please don't call my offer "total bullshit", I made it clear I didn't believe him. In any case the rejected offer of "flies crone + stuff" exceeds your pricing. This evidence isn't the best evidence I've ever seen either in general not seeing any evidence of the trades themselves.

      You don't have to be worked up by me calling that offer bullshit. Collecting offers are not usable proof anyway.


      I have every reason to believe that the 25 buds suggestion that uses your sale as proof is too high and is an outlier. Here in this suggestion, there are 3 recent sales that eventually went for below 20 buds:


      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18436852 - 16.7 buds

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19356285 - 16.5 buds

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19628757 - 14.6 buds


      I personally contacted the seller for the third link to ask him about his sale, and I checked the seller's backpack to see what it had sold for. If you have any doubts about that, feel free to check them yourself.


      I have no problem waiting for your cash sale to proceed, but I'm sticking firm with this price atm.

        "You don't have to get worked up by me calling that offer bullshit. Collecting offers are not usable proof anyway." You are the one who brought it up, I didn't suggest for anyone to use it for pricing and made it clear I didn't trust him. I'm really struggling to see why you bothered to involve it. Anyone with two brain cells can tell the guy is a dodgy scammer alt.


        Your three pieces of evidence do not show the trade themselves, "Checking the sellers backpack" would ignore all cash transactions and any pure quickly spent etc.


        You are linking to threads but not to real evidence. You claim to have evidence with the third seller but haven't uploaded it but its good to hear you bothered getting it. However for the first and second seller you've just claimed that they sold for that figure. I'm really not fussed how this ends up getting priced as it makes no difference to my cash sale but the other owners are getting their hats unfairly devalued (i.e. without significant evidence).


        You don't need to wait "for" my cash sale, I was suggesting you waited for the cash sale so you'd have another price to use, you can submit a suggestion at any time you wish.


        "Feel free to check them yourself" ... that's your job, that's what you are meant to be doing here.

          I don't know why you're struggling to see why I bother involving it when it isn't even relevant to anything. This is my suggestion, I'm free to include in whatever I wish as long as it's not breaking any site rules.


          You seem to doubt whether the evidence I stated here are true. I have more than 250 accepted suggestions and this is my way of writing down the proof. Which is why I said, if you don't trust what I wrote here, feel free to check them yourself. Also, it is not really your concern whether all this evidence are genuine or not. That's for the mods to worry about, not you. Of course, at anytime you find out that what I wrote here isn't true, you can always counter my evidence, feel free to do so.


          Don't misquote me. None of this is my job. I don't benefit anything from this, neither am I paid to do this. This is a voluntary suggestion and all evidence provided are up to the users to believe or not.


          Also, you claim that "checking the sellers backpack" would ignore all cash transactions and any pure quickly spent:


          1. Let me ask you this. How are you going to determine whether cash transaction was involved? And if this is becoming a doubt, 90% of unusual suggestions will not pass because there will be ppl like you asking "what if cash was involved". As long as the seller or buyer never mention anything about cash, all trades are assumed to be non-cash related.


          2. As for pure quickly spent, if you have any doubts, ask the seller yourself. Of course. I done it already, but you seem to have problem trusting what I wrote here, so you could probably double check with the seller yourself.


    the rifleman is invalid, and the suggestion was based on my 25 buds anger.


    9 pure was added, not 4.


    The fact the shaman is gifted & a summer effect seems like a straight downgrade.

    + he got a 12 pure offer before the shaman offer on the cannonball.

      Very well then, I shall close this.