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Boy its next to impossible to find sales for these but here we go, Key collector is at it again!
Proof:
Bought for 3 keys
http://i.gyazo.com/3c00f3513287407888f3112afbb0344c.png
I bought it along with another festive key (which was 2 keys)
Keys were 8 ref back then and I paid 2 keys + 8 ref for it, and 16 ref for the other key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21003613#p56872578
Put it up for trade and got a 3 key (in items) offer in 6 hours
CONCLUSION:
These things are rare on the market, and are defenietly not just 1 key anymore (unless that person is unaware that they have a scorched one)
There are 2 sellers in classifieds, one for 10 keys and one for 16. its impossible to get your hands on them unless you pay a lot. so 1 key is defenietly not the correct price anymore
PUH-LEEZ if you're gonna tell me im wrong provide counter proof
Where can you even view that it is a scorched Key Anyways?
from backpacktf backpacks
Why do people collect these again
http://backpack.tf/id/rrenierr
I got a small collection on my main account, it looks rather pretty in my opinion (just search key and you'll see it)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21086785#latest
Got a 3 key offer within a day.
Good suggestion.
That link recently got another suggestion, 3 keys 3 ref.
once again, to everyone:
I bought it for 3 keys
I got a 3 key offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21086785#latest SOLD for 3 keys
Unless someone can find solds at 1 key or lower than 3 key or any kind of counter proof, PLEASE commentm but dont say its not enough proof if you cant provide any kind of counter proof
Erm, Admins, what are we waiting for on this one?
I dont know either, this is the longest I've ever seen a suggestion up, and its mine O:
it's been up longer than regular key suggestions
Summer vacations all at once, perhaps? TF2 is great, but so is sun, surf, funnel cake, and a boardwalk. :)
To keep my comment relevant: upvoted, based on proof of value and rarity.
odd, i thought they deleted all of these. but its rarity does increase price. upvote.
they pretty much turned them into normal keys. And they can only be seen from bp.tf, making most of the people who have it unaware that they have it.
it's gonna be 10 keys each after u sell urs ? :)
maybe, if someone buys it :P
Don't lose hope ..
How do you find out if a key was originally an old key like a Scorched one?
You probably can't ;-;
It shows in backpack.tf backpacks, and AFAIK, I think on Outpost, too.
Lol I didn't know >_< My Bad
[just a tip, the first two comments after the proof addressed that :> ]
Outpost hasn't been showing them yet, despite my petition attempts
It's possible to identify them in trade offers with a trick I discovered: http://i.imgur.com/ACxsk9t.png
Oh wow, even I didn't know that trick yet O_o
There does exist precedent for expired keys being worth more despite only being visible in certain inventory viewers. See: Festive Winter Crate Key.
Fair price considering rarity
theyre becoming of less and less existence as the uncraft ones can only be seen on bp.tf so people can use them by accident and the viewable ones are almost all in collectors backpacks, i believe this needs an upvote :)
The only problem with this I have is that this also means there is going to have to be a price change to the fall key and eerie key (both equally as rare)
Yep, I tried to price expriced keys before but failed twice, so I used this one since i had enough proof for it
not sure if I'll ever have enough for those two
And I was selling for less than 2 keys for 2 weeks, then I lost it in a trade....no interest at all
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19501644
you should've tried listing it on backpack.tf they're visible here :p
But anyways, that low interest is propably because they are hard to find I assume (please note: its an assumption)
I got a 3 key offer in less than a day, I guess it just depends on wether someone with interest finds your trade
Well....I'm only saying you paid 3 keys doesn't mean others will, people have been arguing those old key prices should remain unchanged due to lack of interest. 2012 Nauchty key got left behind. I wouldn't actually upvote this, either if I had had one or not
(And I put it in classifieds a lot of times)
I paid 3 keys, and I got offered 3 keys for it
and like you said, there is an INCREDIBLY small amount of supply, but also an INCREDIBLY small demand, so there isnt much more proof to be found
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21086785#latest
I got a 3 key offer within 1 day.
i agree that they should be worth more than 1 key, but 3 keys i think is too much
proof says otherwise
Look Most people think this item is worth sense it can only be through backpack.tf backpacks and can only be sold on backpack.tf cause ucant scroll through thosands of pages of keys to find one Its special its fine the price should be 2-3 keys but we should debate on the festive keys that around 1 bud if theres low demand but there rare its should be 2-3 keys and untounched
You should learn the way of the comma and dot. It makes your comment much easier to read, as many people would agree.
This is a good price for these keys.
Upvote, good proof :)
I had one in my pack and forgot to store it with my others at the bottom of my pack and accidentally traded it away as a regular key. That's the thing with these. The vast majority of times, people don't even notice and they just get traded as a normal key.
If you wanted a ban you could've asked for one.
Wow that's a nice looking key! Good for collectors and price seems alright with all the evidence provided.
ill buy for 3 keys
Upvote, the proof is right, and seeing the Festive Keys got valued 1 keys I doubt this won't pass.
And yes, I do own 1, but I own each expired key and started collecting these long before the got value, just epeen.
First of all, the second proof with the 3 keys isn't even valid since no one bought it yet...he's looking for 10 keys but will it sell that's important. The first evidence you put up doesn't even indicate that you traded for a scorched key.....overall faulty evidence.
You're wrong. Why:
You bought it for 3 keys, but the link to the image does not prove that you bought a scorched key. That alone is not enough to invalidate your link, but the fact that you don't own a scorched key, and didn't own a scorched key the day after the trade, on may 31st, (see http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198072888206?time=1401519600), tells me that there is no way that you bought yourself a scorched key.
So... You're basing the entire market off of what one guy offered on one trade? I don't think this is accurate. People manage to sell buds for 26 keys, but does that make them worth 26 keys, or does that make them outliers? Maybe if that trade gets more offers, but otherwise, no.
No disrespect, but all the expired keys look the same on steam/your tf2 bp. The only site it shows its true from is right here, because they retain their original item schema.
It has no relevance here but I sold a festive key in march for 1 bud.
Key collectors are out there, and all of the non-normal (expired) keys have values higher than 1 key to these folks.
My recommendation to the OP
Don't worry if this doesn't pass, these keys in general are a pain in the ass since you cant search for them on outpost. When I sold my festive key the only reason someone found it was I was clever enough to put a festivizer next to it. Either way good try man.
My recommendation to the community
SCAN YOUR BACKPACKS, lol. Know where your keys are at all times, especially if you are fortunate to own any of these retired keys.
I did buy it but stashed the key away on an alternate account so I wouldnt accidently trade it away
So: I bought it for 3 keys
Got an offer of 3 keys
someone else also got an offer for 3 keys
thats enough to prove that is DEFENIETLY isnt worth just 1 key anymore
I remember buying one of these during the event when keys were 2.55-2.66 for 2.33 and I still own it. Put it up for sale once but I got no offers so I closed the trade. This is more than enough proof if we take into consideration how hard it is to find the keys. Don't know if it will pass though.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21086785 - Offer of 3 keys + 3 refined
But it still seems to have sold for 3 keys becuase the other offer didnt get accepted
This suggestion has been up for this long? I went for a week to a summer school, came back and this is still on here!? 0_0
I think the counter doesnt go higher than 12 days since I made this suggestion last saturday
still, its the longest I've ever seen a suggestion be up
this suggestion should be put up a couple of days ago
its not like these keys sell like crazy, but only collectors will want them bad
and as i know some collectors they are willing to go much higher for a key like this
My thoughts exactly. This suggestion is nearly 1/2 a month old and needs to go through already.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHATS GOING ON
I made this suggestion 2 weeks ago and its still up, like, whut
STUFF SUMMED UP:
I bought one for 3 keys
I got a 3 keys offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21086785#latest Sold for 3 keys
Come on mods, if you wait longer the proof will be outdated :I
i think the mods are sitting on thier asses, same thing for the ref suggestion it shouldve been closed WEEKS ago as a negative this shouldve passed already and been in
No, no, and no.
Boy its next to impossible for this suggestion to get accepted
i don't know what is the deal with the mods Accept dis Suggestion
well I'll say yes becase old price and he is right no seller's
Day 15: They still haven't found me yet
Well, the reason this has been up for such a long time is that the mods don't really know what policy we should take regarding these suggestions.
Make no mistake about it, the arguments AGAINST this are pretty compelling:
(1) The majority of these get traded for as a regular key without the traders even knowing.
(2) These don't "exist" anywhere except here.
But perhaps this second reason is why this should be accepted. Brad has felt it best to differentiate these keys on this website, so perhaps we should price them as such - different from regular keys. Collectors seem willing to hand out 3 keys regularly. And as hard as it is to get proof for an item like this, the proof here isn't bad. Going to accept. The event keys can be handled as such unless Brad decides to remove them from the site.