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small range change
Classifieds at time of making the suggestion:
none
Sellers at outpost:
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21100043[/url] - B/O - 3.5 keys - young (Edit: changed his notes to B/O of 4 keys after i opened this suggestion...)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20547788[/url] - 3.5 keys (not mentioned in the notes but replied to a question and said he'd accept 3.5 keys) - 2 weeks
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20311519[/url] - no B/O, no offers - 3 weeks
Conclusion:
3 - 3.5 is a better range because: 3.5 is a common B/O and as we can see above it doesn't sell fast, so it is not a QS.
Supportive proof, counter proof and interesting comments are always welcome.
Note: Even if link 1 (the guy below) changed seriously to 4 keys, 3 - 3.5 is still legit because the 2nd link shows that 3.5 doesn't sell fast.
L1 selling for 4 keys, not 3.5. All your "unsolds" are young and not valid. L2 revealed his BO 7 hours ago so classifies as young. No proof of solds. I'm not convinced the range should drop.
mate, i am re-suggesting to your suggestion. read the notes carefully! link 1 and 2 are both looking for 3.5 keys at the time of making the suggestion! it seems that link 1 changed his notes some seconds ago! oh, and link 1 is you. you changed it to destroy this suggestion! It is up to an admin if he trusts me or you. gl with your trade...
Nope, the BO was 4 keys from the start. You should have actually read the notes, not assume the price from the number of keys pictured.
Edit: Wow, good move accusing me of lying, when you have no proof to back up any of your claims.
mate, i know what I read and the guys who already voted for this suggestion also saw it. it is a simple try to destroy it. btw. what you are doing atm is trying to manipulate the price...
I'm not your mate, guy. 57 people voted and only 8 have seen the trade. Might not even be the same people.
Edit: You're accusing ME of price manipulation when it's YOU who posts false proof in his suggestion? You must feel real desperate to lash out like that.
mate, i don't care if you are not my mate. just stop bothering me. I don't know why you are doing this but i try to stay friendly and I try to make serious suggestions and I don't know why you are trying to manipulate this. however, as i said it is up to an admin/mod now.
Note: Sorry, it is evidence manipulation
"57 people voted and only 8 have seen the trade" not sure how this is relevant, of course very few people have seen the trade, it's very young :| and what does 57 people voting have to do with anything :u
(I've clicked the link a few times by now myself so subtract a few from the views to be more accurate)
People vote without checking the actual trade links (votes>views) because they trust the suggester to represent the information (B/Os) accurately, which, in this case, he didn't.
frankly it looks fair for now, these are the only 3 on outpost (currently)
if you do manage to sell yours for 4 keys, post a screenshot of your inventory history as counterproof then eh?
If I fail to sell for 4 keys, feel free to use it as proof for dropping the price. Until then or until you guys find other legit proof (of which you currently have none), the current range is fine.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20547788 this is legit
It's within the current range. To drop the price you have to show unsolds at the higher end and substantial amount of sellers/solds below that (high end).
there is only you as unsold above 3.5 keys and i have noticed it in the suggestion. furthermore i am not changing the lowend, so there is no need to show lower sellers. I am just reducing the highend.
good point. just counter suggest if you manage to sell yours for 4 keys. thanks for that point.
"Nope, the BO was 4 keys from the start" I'll be frank, people have tried to pull this on me before and it is your trade and you're trying to disprove his suggestion so that looks "a little" suspicious
"no proof to back up any of your claims" you don't either?
I'm not trying to disprove anything, I'm just pointing out that the suggester deliberately or accidentally (?) misrepresented the BO in one of his links. At worst, such false proof should be taken as invalid and be ignored.
Last time I checked bp.tf does not set prices based on suspicions.
oh, and solds are not needed for dropping a price. better you read the rules.
"L2 revealed his BO 7 hours ago " uh care to prove that :u I'm going to be surprised if it took 2weeks (outpost rounding) for him to set a b/o
". No proof of solds" solds not needed to lower
L2 has no real B/O (bp.tf price...) but he'd have accepted 3.5 keys 9 hours ago. but i am looking if i can find something else about his B/O :)
him saying 3.5keys in comments is fair enough as a b/o (didn't notice that comment before, but he does have it at bptf price which is enough of a b/o for me)
when it says bptf prices and there's a range, I think we're allowed to assume midrange as b/o :?
sure, especially if he would have accepted 3.5 keys
It's within the current range. To drop the price you have to show unsolds at the higher end and substantial amount of sellers/solds below the high end.
already answered above^^
4 keys is not going to happen, no matter what they ask.