Suggestion: Mann Co. Supply Crate Key at 8.44–8.66 ref

Lots of people are selling for the guide price at the moment but then people are selling above it and still selling them easily. I feel like they need a slight change in price.

Thanks for viewing and if you want to counter-proof or help with suggestions then just comment it below.

nice job this was pretty solid for your first time.

*upvote

I d apreciate more proof but it seems fine now. If you can add more links I will upvote.

Note: I wouldn´t do a key suggestion as first suggestion :).

Ok. Yeah it probably wasn't the greatest idea for a first suggestion but I wanted to try :P

I just remember when d0 made his first suggestion... He suggested bud price when they were about 21 keys and it got accepted xD.

What does that have to do with anything?

Some of your sales are bots and whose trades has been created over 1 month ago, no recent adds in comments...

Needs buyers too

Downvote for now

Ok that's understandable. I wasn't sure on some of the trades because you couldn't tell if it had been over a long time or not :3

Cool down still in effect.

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/2620-key-cooldown-guidelines-read-before-making-key-suggestions/

Also, most of them are still selling (Key Bankers), not sold. You can't say how much they sold over the course of the time.

This change isn't by 1 scrap though. so surely the cool down isn't in effect? :/

Your suggestion does not make any sense at all. You are just providing sellers. Not to mention you are completely assuming as well.

You are changing a price of 8.44 ref to a range of 8.44-8.66 ref, the average of which is 8.55 ref. That's a one scrap increase.

How 'bout looking at those unsolds in the classfieds?

Ok, I'll give that a go. (thanks for helping) :)

i don't feel like letting keys go up anymore but your proof is decent so I cant just downvote when its good enough to be up so upvote for me :D

just hope this wont go up until I get all the keys I need ;/

Your suggestion is all messed up.

Lets starts from the beginning shall we?

Solds at 9.00 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16853381 --> You are completely assuming; is still selling, can't determine how much he/she has sold over the course of time.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21141380 --> Complete Assumptions, didn't sell a single one from what I can see.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21227970 --> Looks like he only sold 1

Solds at 8.77 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20670678 --> You are completely assuming; is still selling, can't determine how much he/she has sold over the course of time.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20856278 --> You are completely assuming; is still selling, can't determine how much he/she has sold over the course of time.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20882093 --> Claim does not mean anything when it comes to keys. I can claim I have sold over 500 but is it true? No.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21165606 --> You are completely assuming; is still selling, can't determine how much he/she has sold over the course of time.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20151645 --> You are completely assuming; is still selling, can't determine how much he/she has sold over the course of time.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19919293 --> You are completely assuming; is still selling, can't determine how much he/she has sold over the course of time.

I don't even feel like going anymore. Your suggestion does not make sense. You are completely assuming based off of sellers who constantly sells and classified speaks for itself. Look at it. 8.44 is still the most common trading point. Not to mention, if it was rising...Scrap.tf key stock would drastically decrease. http://scrap.tf/keys

I made sure that on all of the trades I posted links to that of you check the history of the item then you can see if it's been sold. It shouldn't matter about if the trade is still open or not but just look at the item's history.

Item history is not reliable on item like this. Also, read what I said, Sutgon said and read what this says : http://tf2finance.com/keys/

If keys were going up Tf2 finance would show that. Right now they are saying its worth 8.33 ref and backpack.tf is lagging behind. It should be going down not up.

Maybe you could resuggest it with more solds and fix your unsold links. Also with a better range. But anyways, this is solid.

I think the cooldown is in effect. Not sure though

Can you prove that 8.44 is a qs?

cooldown

Isn't the cool down for a >.11 meanwhile this is a change of .15

NO!! KEY'S GO DOWN NOT UP NONONONONONO!!! BAD BAD DR.ZEPTO BAD BAD DR.ZEPTPO NO!!!!!!!

Sorry but it seems logical (to me anyway) to increase the price as the community already are doing so anyway. :s

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Mann+Co.+Supply+Crate+Key&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1&page=1 8 pages of sellers at 8,44 or lower! Downvote.

He is also basing the price off of sellers and assumption of his own from those still opened selling trades as well as "seller's claim" on the ongoing selling trades.

Here is my proof http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20712286

In the last 24 hours I bought 3-4 at 8:22 ref.

I think now the QS price is 8:22

The Price "normal" is around 8:33 to 8:44 and from 8:55 up it starts to get a bit of effort to sell

Even here on backpack.tf, is full of people selling keys 8.33

Downvote for now ( sorry for my bad english )

Tf2finance at 8.26 ref, trade.tf at 8.33, crap.tf has still 590ish in stock and selling for 8.33. And 3-day cooldown is in effect, so nope.

Oh and from what I can tell, the 10 ref thing hasn't been done, all full of jokes. Also 2 months old.

Oh and the 12 ref one is over a year old, possibly has changed the price 100 times by now.

First 9 ref link is over half a year old, also probably changed price 100 times.

Next 9 ref link, you're assuming. If you're assuming it's not concrete proof. I can assume he unboxed or threw the keys to some beggar.

And then I stopped looking through the proof. Don't assume. It's bad for you.

scrap.tf has like, 539 keys unsold and they're selling for 8.33 ref.

Also, if you search for buyers, they're either buying for 8 or 8.33. I have not found a single legit key bot buying for 8.44, let alone 8.55 or 8.66. I found one claiming to buy at 8.55 but he ran out of metal one month ago.

Cooldown is still in effect for a price change of this size (median change of 1 scrap requires 3 days), counterproof has already been provided in comments besides.

Closing.