Suggestion: Demonflame Cold Killer at 123.5–142.5 keys

Price Suggestion

~890 keys

demonflame

80 votes up

71 votes down

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This suggestion was marked as bad evidence and closed Wed, 06 Aug 14 05:49:38 +0000 by An Average NTR Enjoyer.

There should always be enough evidence to back up the new proposed value. However, it appears that the evidence is not strong enough, or cherry-picked in a way that does not represent the actual market value of the item. Therefore, this suggestion has been closed.

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Last Accepted one was posted 4 months ago. Time for an update.

Feel free to ignore "Livin Like Larry" Who's butthurt about his hat dropping! Or just read his comments that aren't supported. Look at what proof he's provided (Absolute zero.)

Correction Backpack.tf: THERES 2. Both are duped, and it'll stay that way for a LONG time.

This proof includes unusual overpay (75% of the bp.tf price is counted for each unusual.)

Proof:

Sold for 4.25 in unusuals plus 1 pure!: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21255457

-Blizz. Slug+Smoking Reggae+ Stormy Fez+ DP Bonk helm.+ 1 pure

Sold for 4.25 in unusuals: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20998219

Phosphorus Towering Pillar Of Hats

[~ 4 BUDS.]Sold for 2 Single Class Unusual Taunts!: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20959125 ~4 buds (Single class taunts are going for 2 buds on outpost!) It was sold to me. What I bought the taunts for: http://postimg.org/image/mhpidxox1/

[6.6 buds]: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20294857 (What he had after: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20296036).

-Phosphorus Beak

(Out Lier) Sold for 7.5 buds in Unusuals: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20695795

Purple Energy Rack

Past Vote:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20295132 sold for a Cloud 99 Stahlhelm (5.6)+Dead presidents Stahlhelm (1.6)+1 earbud pure, this adds up to 8.2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20200541 sold for a purple energy tosslecap 7.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19994111 he offered so no overpay on the beak (beak is 7.8) He added a Australium professional tomislav which my friend bob later sold for a bud 6.6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20167092 sold for a burning noble 7.7

So I'm pretty sure this is a fair new updated price for it.

I'm smelling price manipulation. The two of you obviously are working together to price this and downvoting comments you guys don't like.

Yep. I'm getting spam on my outpost and my steam from these guys.

Price manipulation? Why would we (If I was working with lions.. -.-) make it go down then? Lmfao, what are you his friend?

You should list what they sell for

Okay haha, I'll get to that :)

This proof is FAKE. He's pricing it for his friend, Lions, who begged me to sell me my Cold Killer and is now spamming my trades.

This guy sold me the cold killer for 9 buds in unusuals, and now is offering a 10 bud offer, and constantly bugs me to take it. I said no, and he's in a rage now.

It did not sell for the taunts, it sold for a stormy 13th anger to Orion.

It also sold for an aces pull-over recently (12 buds)

Digi money sold it to me for the taunts. My friend lions was met when I was selling it, he wanted to offer. Thanks for the rude comment.

I will add the aces pull-over, but mind if you give the link? It is an outlier.

Also You own one, everyone check out his inventory, he's mad because he can't sell it, he's had it for around 2 weeks +.

And where's proof of lions3316 wanting to buy the cold killer from you? If I remember right, I sold mine to you, and he bought it from another person before he met you.

Proof of the ten bud offer?

When you traded the taunts, their value was sky high. You realize they were going for 7 buds +, right? I'm fine with you voting on my hat, but when you provide FAKE proof and you are just doing it out of spite, I can't stand for it.

I did that a few weeks ago, the taunts weren't going that high, I bought mine for around a bud each.

Please explain which proof is fake, I'll gladly get rid of it. (NONE OF THEM ARE FAKE)

Pricing for my friend? Who Lions? His is already sold, and we don't even do anything together anymore.. -.-

Mind checking the first suggestion? That's his.

Wait wait wait... so you just said you bought it a week ago and sold it to me 2 weeks ago?

LIE DETECTED

Thanks for down voting all my comments.

Where did I say I bought it a week ago, and I don't know the exact date, I said around 2 weeks.

"I did that last week"

you're digging into a deeper hole mate, come back when you have REAL proof.

Where's it say that?

And what proof is fake, stop commenting until you say what proof is fake, you're making this thread too large.

wow, modifying the comment to get around your lie.

im done here, i trust everyone knows that this is price manipulation

You're butthurt because I truly think this hat will drop, and that you haven't been offered on yet.

http://postimg.org/image/mhpidxox1/

Really doubting your comments now...

I payed similar to 2 buds for BOTH.

Lions messaged me this morning telling me he made a mistake and wanted to buy my cold killer for what he got for it

I said no and he flipped out. You also messaged me asking to sell it for your "10 bud offer."

Screenshots of chat:

https://imgbomb.com/i/?4RueK

https://imgbomb.com/i/?cBO94

I didn't even offer, I said it in chat, and then I said no.

So where's that 10 bud pure offer proof?

And that KE offer that you have on your trade? Both have no proof, stop lying

Never said anything about a 10 bud pure offer. I got the KE 10 bud mixed offer from stinger, who later retracted.

Stinger? Please provide proof.

Oh yeah, nice 1 suggestion out of 5 accepted reputation you have there.

LOL your the exact same you know? 4 failed, 1 accepted and this one

*When was it sold for an ace's pull-over, and also orion sold it to me for 5*.75 in unusuals. Thank you very much.

Get rid of the spoilers, the sales from the past suggestion don't matter either, they are outdated sales.

I got rid of the spoilers, but correction, THE SALES DO MATTER. They were only about 6 owners ago, give or take. Research before commenting.

The amount of owners is moot. The market changes based on time, not on how many owners one hat has.

That's the point. This hat hasn't been sold that many times, so the previous proofs offers do matter. 3 weeks is not that long of a time for prices.

Also I was looking at this proof myself, by going through the previous owners. They're aren't even that many owners on the hat, I was trying to provide as much proof as possible, and those were sold for that price, and you can't change it.

they matter, but invalid. Anything past 3 months old is not allowed as proof

This entire thread is cancer.

Syphilis***

Looks like price manipulation maybe im wrong but im to 70% shure thats a manipulation

Another person. Why would I manipulate a price and make it drop? What do I gain from it? I sincerely think it should drop, I had too hard of a time selling it.

" This proof is FAKE. He's pricing it for his friend, Lions, who begged me to sell me my Cold Killer and is now spamming my trades.

This guy sold me the cold killer for 9 buds in unusuals, and now is offering a 10 bud offer, and constantly bugs me to take it. I said no, and he's in a rage now.

It did not sell for the taunts, it sold for a stormy 13th anger to Orion.

It also sold for an aces pull-over recently (12 buds) " by LLL

Yeah and, what do I gain? Nothing? I retracted that offer to larry a long time ago. He's overexaggerating saying that I'm begging him constantly lol. He's just butthurt.

And it did sell for the taunts, check my history.

Also he never provided proof for the pull-over.

He's just butthurt, you should get it. I'm making his hat drop. (He's mad because he bought it from me for 11 buds, which is an outlier, but whatever.)

"Why would I manipulate a price and make it drop?"-->"I'm making his hat drop." ?

the price moderator will find the right way and now aother guy who said he buyed for ~10 now im shure about 80%

"Why would I manipulate a price and make it drop?"--> " ^ Cold killer is duped.!!! "

I don't even get what you're saying, restate it simpler please.

it is i bought it from him for a secret crown

lion sold it for a secret crown (10). and you didnt put that anywhere. wow.

He said he sold it for blizz and crap on his trade ... what the f?

well let me change that lol. And it's 7.5 because of unusual overpay.

Oh damn, I can't edit the comment anymore, sorry.

I'll leave it down here for people to see.

IT IN FACT DID NOT SELL FOR -Blizz. Slug+Smoking Reggae+ Stormy Fez+ DP Bonk helm.+ 1 pure, IT SOLD FOR A SECRET CROWN! (7.5 with unusual overpay included.)

nice price manip. You added me and asked for a 1:1 then i asked u to add and now ur making the price go down honestly ur probs getting banned

What? I added you? I don't ever remember adding you...

And I don't even have one... -.- The only two in existance are owned by LLL and You.

Stop being butthurt because you two have the unusuals.. -.-

Me getting banned? Because of making the price go down? Do I have one? No. I'm trying to make a fair price suggestion, without you two who are mad because you guys have the two that are going down. This was going fine at first.

overpay = 90% .-.

You saw that from Amazing OP, it's normally not 90%,

you're obviously new to unusual price voting and doing this for spite; 90% is the correct way to do it...

you have 4 rejected listings out of 5, I think you should be quiet... lmfao.

You do too? In by defense I had to correct my vote because of wrong units, plus it was my first vote. It got passed in the end, so - ugh, why am I still arguing with you?

I don't know :3 And I don't have any rejected listings.. It's 1/1 accepted.

probably doesn't deserve a down vote

By the way, overpay is calculated with 90%, not 75%.

Most people are doing 75% of the bp.tf price.

then most people are wrong right way is =90%

You need to find out how to do a real suggestion.

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-new-unusual-price-suggestion-guide-the-cheat-sheet/

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/792-how-to-make-a-good-suggestion-bullet-points-version/

http://backpack.tf/rules

Go to these links to learn how to make one.

._.

60 comments, ive seen less on a ref sugfestion

Exactly. What the hell ? >.>

Any sales 2 months or older aren't valid. Overpay calculated at 90%

Overpay is 90% of the price, not 75%. Please read the guidelines for more information.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21736715 - sold for cloud nine and miami cold killers, about 7.2 after overpay: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21759073

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21587819 - this hat and roboactive jeepcap (~4) sold for blizz brotherhood (~13): http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21601296

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20959125 - stormy 13th anger ~9

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20695795 - aces pullover ~10.5?

Some of your links aren't correct

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20998219 - this wasn't traded 1:1, it appears this hat and aces brainiac (~4.5) was traded for sulphurous titanium pillar (~5) and eerie tree (~4.5). Not sure if there are other things swapped

Your low end seems to come from nowhere, as there are outlier sales at ~4 and ones at ~10. I agree that the old price is a bit too high, but the proof you have doesn't support your range.