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Golden age of craft hats is over? I beg to differ.

To other suggestors who want to drop these poor little hats: Please don't ignore sales at high-end again.

Most of my proof was quite outdated after I had done studying for university. Looking proof to spam-suggest again. Bread Box Hype is over so finding proof will be a little harder now.

Both of sales are from me.


Sold for 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21366819

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21158659


Conclusion: Before you say something stupid like "Not enough proof, downvote", take a look on the market first. This thing is so rare now. Demand > Supply because supply of craft hats went down and it's reasonable for this thing to rise.

Feel free to counter / support my proofs.

    First one doesn't show proof of you actually selling it for 1.66 Ref, in comments or anything, and I thought peoples own trades couldn't be proof. So downvote

      So a valid sold always has a comment below, heh?

      Did you even check history?

      Have nothing to say now.

        If you have proof were your selling something, and someone offered 1.66. That's valid, but trades where you have the listed price for 1.66 doesn't count as proof. And the first doesn't actually show signs of it selling.

      Oh wait, I see your problem. I sold this during craft hats were priced at 1.66 (so high-end here = 1.66)

      If you don't believe me, check on trade.tf: http://www.trade.tf/trade/484569004

        Helps to screenshot those, trade.tf links often don't last as long as a suggestion.

        1. Item history is a thing. Click the item.

        2. There's nothing wrong with using your own trades. Why should there be? It's as valid as anyone else's.

      upvote since i did some digging and people dont go less than 1.55

        Find more proof, one person doesn't represent entire market.

        I've been selling one, had adds for 1.55 but they bought one before I could respond. upboat.

          The 1.66 proof is fine. The part I find odd, is that you have provided absolutely zero reason to keep 1.33 in the range.

          If it's selling easily at 1.66, and 1.33 is, like, some super-quicksell, why not 1.66 flat?

          Also:

          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21294652 Selling for 1.55

          There isnt any actually LISTED at 1.66. For all we know the entirety of Outpost is selling cheaper than 1.66.

            Conservative bump.

            I always do this before doing a flat.

            Yet if I do 1.66 flat, classified listing will be a very strong counter-proof against me.

              So, rep-whoring. 'kay.

                  All you had to do was provide that proof, a counter-suggestion isn't necessary.

                  I just dragged the required proof from you is all.

                    You ask something that isn't necessary for a conservative bump.

                    gg no re

                      No. You have to prove non-quicksell 1.33 sales still occur to keep 1.33 in the range.

                      The two-day old seller at 1.33 in the classifieds goes some way to remedy this.

                        http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53b795ae4cd7b8fc388b4700

                        k, I see no point argueing over this now.

                          dpb., in trying to disprove you, provided you the 1.33 proof. Unsolds.

                            And I quote:

                            Who even use tf2wh anyway?

                            And bots are invalid proof.

                            kek


                            Perhaps a restatement is in order.

                            The counterproof dpb. provided is invalid, due to both the scarcity of players who use tf2wh, and the fact that bots aren't considered valid proof anyway. That suggestion would have gone through whether or not dpb. showed up using tf2wh as proof, and I expect this one will too.

                              Thank you for being irrelevant and not contributing to the suggestion.

                              Appreciate it.

            CHRISTMAS HYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!


            Upvote.

              Oh yea.

              I forgot to include that!

              #Inb4BMOCriseagain.

                  Not necessarily true of all craft hats, I remain a little skeptical on that general point, but this one does appear to be going above 1.33 on a regular basis. Almost all of the ones posted recently at 1.33 (found via trade.tf), and some above, have sold or been closed in under a day.


                  Sold quickly at 1.33, then listed and resold at (about) 2.00:

                  1.33: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21450389 (not in backpack, sold at 1.33 apparently, to Cyborg Saber.)

                  2.00: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21472108 (not in backpack, though it's also not immediately clear what he actually got for it)


                  Whoops, apparently that's just providing more context for the last link that Giang posted. Anyway, I'm willing to believe the trade.tf rolling average on this one given the existing trades.