Suggestion: Refined Metal at $0.23–$0.24

Price Suggestion

~$0.03

1316 votes up

1165 votes down

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This suggestion was marked as bad evidence and closed Mon, 28 Jul 14 02:33:56 +0000 by Puddilicious.

There should always be enough evidence to back up the new proposed value. However, it appears that the evidence is not strong enough, or cherry-picked in a way that does not represent the actual market value of the item. Therefore, this suggestion has been closed.

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Hello there everyone. Hope you all are doing great! ^_^

Re-suggesting

Sellers at $0.24

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=27447.0

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21367923

http://puu.sh/afwQ6/2c74734eb6.png -- http://puu.sh/afxbY/cb3edd3930.png (Sold over 100 at $.24) [Thanks KoD]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20071148 || History :

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198028742961?time=1405753200 (Had 16 refined metal at 19th of July 2014)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198028742961?time=1405926000 (Sold almost all by 21ist of July 2014) [Had only 2 ref left on 21st July 2014]

Sellers at $0.23

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16140132

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20151346

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15565942

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21153358

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21124546 --> Sold all for $.23

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21110741 --> Sold many for $.23 now selling for $.24 here : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21367923

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19693292

http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/comments/2ae2pl/h_190_usd_paypal_w_tons_of_metal_for_023_usd_each/

http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/comments/28inbq/h_paypal_w_refined_023_keys_185_usd/

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=28533.0

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=29579.0

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=28836.0

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21110741

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21315456

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20151346

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20125821

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=30188.0

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=29463.0

Sellers at and below $0.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21165225 --> $0.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19998689 --> $0.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21354637 --> $0.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21130031 --> $0.22

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=28061.0 --> $0.22

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=27702.0 --> $0.22

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=29609.0 --> $0.22

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=26344.0 --> $0.21

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=27204.0 --> $0.21

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=29035.0 --> $0.21

Sellers at $0.25

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21139273

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21164570

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20019133

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=28608.0

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¹: http://www.wmtransfer.com/eng/about/ - States webmoney currencies

²: http://www.oanda.com/currency/converter/ - Simple converter for currency

If you're too lazy...

1 Russian Rouble (RUB/WMR) ~ $0.02803 USD

1 British Pound (£) ~ $1.68506 USD

1 Euro (€) ~ $1.38016 USD

NOTE: These are rough translations and may change as values rise and fall

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Conclusion : $.23 - $.24 looks good for now, I guess.

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Add : Hardly any sellers above $.23

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Add 2 : Posted all available sellers.

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Add 3 : Thanks d0 for a bit of help on this and Kejsumaru™ for the converter links.

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Feel free to hate, support or give good counter-proof.

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Thanks to all Supporters, Moderators, Haters, Highballers, Lowballers, Mechanics, Engineers, Developers, Archaeologist, and Aliens obviously

hmm dunno what to vote the last one got only 48% out of the 4k votes

yeah right being nice here still got a downvote

you have no idea what you are doing here, do you?

downvote for this suggestion

do you know what is wrong with the suggestion, or are you just assuming/guessing?

i found that many players still sells for .24 on tf2oupost and they sold really quick and i downvoted this long ago

if .24 sold really quick, it should clearly be higher.

XD I was halfway through making one, and ten I looked through the suggestions.

Here is some help:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21165179 (0.22 USD)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21354312 (0.23 USD)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21244300 (0.23 USD)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20071148 (0.24 USD)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17868389 (0.25 USD)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18662815 (0.25 USD)

If I made any mistakes, I'm sorry, I'm only human. :/

Thank you!

All of your 25 cent sellers have sold out. Closing this.

Props to u for persevering

Lot better then last one. Not sure yet for my vote yet though.

Okay, upvote for me now.

I have been waiting for this suggestion for a week. Glad you didn't give up :)

Im not trying to be rude or anything (nice proof) but keys are going down in ref so it only makes sense that ref should be going UP not down.

That makes 0 sense.

It makes alot of sense, Keys are going down right, they're 8.33ref atm so why would ref go down to 0.23-0.24 if ref is worth more now because keys are going down.

This is $ value, not refined value...

Firstly, it does not matter what is happening to keys in relations to how Refined is valued.

Secondly, it does not have to make sense. Unusuals are extremely rare to unbox, but should I raise the value for them all?

I woke up and read this, now my head hurts.

Did you re-open this after it was closed?

Aye, because almost all of the sensible comments wanted a range of $0.23 - $0.24 rather than a flat drop to $0.23

Stop ruining peoples lives :(

Can you please return when you're not so emotionally wrought over this matter? Perhaps with some counter-proof if you feel like it to disprove him?

Chill out. How come every time someone disagrees with the suggestion and/or makes a harmless joke it gets beat unconscious with downvotes. In my own defence, is there a rule stating that I MUST provide proof when commenting? I understand that it is frowned upon to simply express your opinion here, but all I said was "Did you re-open this after it was closed?". (Which it was)

Really? The last refined suggestion he made showed that just about anyone disagreed with his suggestion got like 10 thumbs up.

so, all of our backpack's values are determined by these few money traders?

well great

Yep. Frankly, it doesn't make sense to anchor backpack value to refined rather than keys.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21153358 - isn't this one selling for $.25? Listed under $.23.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21139273 - this one's selling for $.24 now. Listed under $.25.

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=29035.0 - buying, not selling for $.21

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21153358 --> Hmm Could have misplaced it by mistake.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21139273 --> Changed prices

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=29035.0 --> Alrighty.

Again, really shaky suggestion built on a hostile community of people afraid of their cumulative backpack values lowering. The user Google presented much counter proof on the previous suggestion, and, according to MANY people $0.25 still sells.

Nope. Still nope. Nice try, though.

Can you put up some unsolds for the current value?

Currently I see many selling for. .24-.25

I dont know where I stand on the proof but I have managed to sell a few refined for $0.27 USD O_o

I quite often buy metal for $$. It's been a very long time since I've had to pay $0.25 per refined. Unless you're buying from the very first (high) trade you see, you'll find it for less than $0.25 easily.

why those proof is containing buying thread? not good proof i guess

To show both side of market. I provided all available sellers and 1 or 2 buyers to show both side of market. Should have separated the two buyers that like I usually do but I forgot to, my apologies.

Nevertheless I pretty much covered up the entire market so I don't see how is that not a good proof.

I think this is a better range for this. I also feel that on your last one everyone was entirely too hostile. I see no need for hostility on a price suggestion. I see that constructive criticism is far better than telling you that you are a clueless idiot. Upvote for me.

This is already long overdue...

TF2, Only one of the economies that doesn't make any sense. Too bad I can't cash out of the US economy.

You can. Gold is a currency that is always acceptable.

Very good post

~~he owns 7 so he is obviously goodd...~~

proof looks good

I thought the love & war update some what stabilized the encon?

cuz the keys are falling and the buds are rising...

inform me plz

the love and war update did nothing but add some more miscs and 4 weps

the reason keys are now going down is because everyone is desperate to sell their keys and try to sell them at ~8 ref thinking that the price will keep going down, and therefore creating proof for a lower price. its the exact opposite effect as when keys prices were rising

He perseveres through thick and thin! An act of true manliness!

Why would you even do this suggestion??? Unless you want your backpack value to drop, its useless. + The keys price are going down, which would be a good reason to make the price of the ref go up instead of down in my opinion. Maybe what i'm saying is retarded but It sounds logic to me...

He wants the price on backpack.tf to reflect the current price. Pretty sure that was the purpose of backpack.tf in the first place.

not true, he wants the bp.tf reputation points, which are worth nothing so idk why

This guy doesn't give up. Posts another one. Well, this attempt will be crushed like the last.

I voted on your last suggestion and i mantain my vote: down.

Sorry but, gathering from the non-hostile comments it seems like this suggestion doesn't entirely reflect the current price. I'll have to stay neutral on this.

i see someone has been going throuh disliking all comments saying that we downvoted, very mature

didnt say it was you -_-

Wait, who did you reply to? The notification said you replied to me. >.<

My sincere apologies. Thought you replied to me. Deleted that comment of mine Again, my bad. :P

well, it says i replied to your comment because your suggestion is technically a "comment"

Dude,

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=27702.0 (last bumped on 29th june)

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=29609.0 (last bumped 21th june, not selling anymore)

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=26344.0 (last bumped 25th june)

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=27204.0 (last bumped 3rd june)

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=29035.0 (he is BUYING, not selling)

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=27447.0 (unbumped since 12th may)

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=28836.0 (not selling refs since 14th july)

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=29579.0 (not bumped since 12th june)

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=28533.150 (not bumped since 7th july)

If you call theses dead threads "proof", well, there's a problem.

Not even in my range. Provided it either to support or to show there are/were sellers below .23

"Provided it either to support or to show there are/were sellers below .23" if it's dead it doesn't count as support.

Have you even clicked the links?

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=27447.0 part of your 0.24 seller proof, last bumped 12th may

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=28533.0 part of your 0.23 seller proof, last bumped 7th july

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=29579.0 part of your 0.23 seller proof, last bumped 12th june

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=28836.0 part of your 0.23 seller proof, not selling for 0.23 anymore (check his website, he's selling for 0.25 now)

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=29463.0 part of your 0.23 seller proof, last bumped 16th july, 0 refs in his backpack.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21110741 part of your 0.23 seller proof, closed.

You're doign it wrong.

Also :

http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/comments/2ae2pl/h_190_usd_paypal_w_tons_of_metal_for_023_usd_each/ (BUYING refs, not selling)

http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/comments/28inbq/h_paypal_w_refined_023_keys_185_usd/ (BUYING refs, not selling)

Out of all...

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21110741 --> You can't expect seller's to keep their trades open at all time. He is done selling as it looks like.

Edit : Forgot to mention about the others...Alrighty but know that this suggestion have been open for over 2 weeks+ :P

Your other two added....I will quote myself.

"To show both side of market. I provided all available sellers and 1 or 2 buyers to show both side of market. Should have separated the two buyers that like I usually do but I forgot to, my apologies."

Feel free to do whatever you like but from my view...This definitely needs a bump down, you can't deny the fact that it is too easy to buy at .23

Like look at my chicken said in the last suggestion, 0.25 is still possible so removing it off the range isn't something correct to do.

"To show both side of market. I provided all available sellers and 1 or 2 buyers to show both side of market."

All available sellers, except you didnt include ANY sourceop links at all.

0.25 still sells as shown by people here, and your prior suggestion. Since you have to show it doesn't, or at the very least show it doesn't sell "often", this suggestion should be closed like your last one was.

Just another guy with too much time on his hands and fills it making price suggestions.

Good suggestion I think, but how can metal drop if keys drop-I think the last attempt to drop metal coincided with the last key drop which a lot of people thought was a fluke, but it happened again.

Because the metal value is independent from the key value. Keys may be going down, but supply and demand is what determines these prices.

wut is dis???? :/

This does not make sense... the ref per key has decreased, and since a key has a constant price then that means ref price needs to be adjusted higher or keys need their price lower.

Are there still people who believe this?