Suggestion: Electrostatic Crone's Dome at 171–203.3 keys

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~120 keys

electrostatic

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Sale 1.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21682101 - Sold for Green Black Hole Anger.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198070626170?time=1406876400 - Before

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198070626170?time=1406962800 - After

11.85 * 0.9 = 10.665 = 10.7

Sale 2.

http://i.imgur.com/ZTtltro.png - Sold for 10 pure 2 months ago.

Sale 3.

http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1402332362/8059ea33/5384579.png

http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1402332402/95f95d47/5384582.png - Sold for 9 pure 2 months ago.

Sale 4.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19568102 - Sold for Spellbound Kabuto 2.5 months ago.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198059874109?time=1400137200 > http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198059874109?time=1400223600

17 * 0.9 = 15.3

I'm counting sale 4 as an outlier and it's also the most out of date sale. Pricing at 9 - 10.7.

Thanks to l0sh4r1k and Karampun .. Vacation back 23/8!! for proof.

Special thanks to Whipple for the Outpost links as I'm currently banned from there. He also helped with histories.

And lastly thanks to Cheeze for the moral support. He's quitting today and he's been a helpful price contributor and a good friend for many years. RIP buddy.

Sorry about the close the other day. My bad.

that drop though

No overpay needed on the first one since he got offered the anger, just letting you know

I thought overpay applies either way?

When you offer the hat and the trade is successful you apply overpay, but when someone offers it on your post, no overpay is required, also dome is worth 19-21 buds and anger is 11.9, do you really think you should apply overpay?

I'm pretty sure I just proved the Dome isn't worth 19-21 buds actually.

I think overpay is still required but I'm happy to wait for an admin decision on the matter. I'm by no means experienced on unusual suggestions.

Sure you proved it should be lower, but its suggested price at the moment is 19-21 buds, you should base your suggestion on it

I don't understand what you mean by that. I'm just doing this suggestion so I can do another suggestion...

Poo Smearer offered his GBH Anger on the Crones. So overpay does need to be taken into account. Rekt.

I KNOW HE OFFERED IT ALREADY, you dont have to apply overpay, imbeccile, get rekt

That was an Executioner, not the Crone's Dome. I think that Josh just accidentally posted the wrong trade. He wanted this one. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21487970

Where did I post the wrong trade?

Also extra proof: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21468939 - Sold for 10 pure.

10 is a quicksell,9 is probably too

2 sales at 10 means it is not a quicksale... Also 9 is pretty close to 10 and recent sales centre around 9-11 buds.

no,if something sells in 5 hours,and is clearly 50% lower than the bp.tf price

it's a quicksell alright.

so find me the outpost trade of the 9 sale

I don't have it, I got the proof from this suggestion; http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5395e5584dd7b898568b4615

Nor can I search Outpost at the moment as I'm banned which I said in my suggestion if you read through it in its entirety.

You find me the trade and proof it's a quicksell if you want to legitimately counter-proof me.

i find that you should provide all the research if you are suggesting.

this isn't counter proof

it's something you should have provided from the get-go

edit : http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5395e5584dd7b898568b4615

declined,because there were no links to Op trades

I cannot search Outpost. I've said that a few times now.

I provided a sale with an image of the completed transaction. There is no way for me to find the trade as I am banned from Outpost. I credited the source of my proof. If you want to find the trade, go ahead. I've provided all proof I can currently provide.

the suggestion i posted,didn't get accepted for the same reason

basically,there is no way you are right xd

Like i said on the other trade, the sale with the GBH anger shouldn't be used as the situation revolving around the trade was really special. i wouldn't have done the trade had the guy i traded for the hearts modest would've wanted the Crone's over the Anger.

if only would care about stuff like that.

they are like

LOW SALE > NEW EFF > DOWN DOWN DOWND OWODJSDAKLJFKDJFKDF

yeah

Yeah lad, look at all the price suggestions I've made on new effects.

This isn't even a new effect, it's Robo.

robo effects were added may 17th

new effects june 19th

you were saying ?

I'm saying that it's a Robo effect, not a new effect. If you read my above post you'd see what I'm saying.

it's "new" to me

i put it in the same basket with the "new" halloween effects too.

people treat them mostly the same

No they don't.

whatever you say

new effects are 3rd gen. Robo is robo. noone takes robo as "new"

Robo, new halloween and summer effects are all considered new because they are not first/second/first halloween effects and they all got unstable prices/aren't well liked.

Mind explaining these special details?

Thing is, you did the trade. Therefore it is proof.

Basically i wanted to get a hearts modest for a special person, and i was discussing it with the guy and he didn't like the crones, so i asked him if he'd do the anger instead of the crones and he said yes to that, so i traded the crones for the anger just so i could get that hat, other than that i wouldn't have done that trade at all.

But the point is that you did do the trade and it fits into range with recent sales.

Not if you realize that no body is willing to shell out 15+ pure for a hat like this, but 15+ in unusuals is quite possible, as my friend was offered that and more a few times on their trade and private offers. People just don't give as much pure for hats like these as they're worth, which is why the Anger trade should be an outlier, if i really so wanted to i could've gotten more than that in unusuals. i was only itching for pure anyways since i was trying to get a gift like i said.

Proof of offers over 15?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20319947

I don't see offers >15.

Almost all the offers are above 15, da heck are you talking about....

Which ones? Please give me specific examples.

DP Law + BMOC

GE Bonk Boy + Stormy Yellow Belt + a Prof Luger

0.9(11.4 + 0.5) = 10.7. Fits range.

The GE Bonk Boy offer was accepted but the offerer either already sold or backed out.

Try again.

DP law was offered while it was still 20 as far as i'm concerned

Offered: Jul 1st, 2014 6:38am

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53a0ffcb4dd7b850788b4571 - Suggestion accpeted 1 month ago. Suggestion had been up 3 weeks before accepted. That's proof enough that it sure as fuck wasn't worth 20 buds.

Admin comment on accepted suggestion:

"hmm highend may be too high, but this is definitely better than the current range."

So basically it could be even lower.

Try again.

shit, why would you apply overpay

I'm just taking it as if the hat were hypothetically accepted and a trade was completed.

Read the mother fucking rules.

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-new-unusual-price-suggestion-guide-the-cheat-sheet/

"All OFFERED hats and items should be taken at 90% of their original average price."

There is no way for me to explain it better than that.

No words for this.

I don't understand why you are so against overpay. It's a rule and must be followed.

Man you're following it in an hypothetical situation....

I'm just showing that the offer is not >15 buds if it were to be accepted.

i agree with josh. it would be 10.7

a DECLINED offer would be 10.7

if you know what i mean

Yeah. I get ya. So there were no offers over 15, as claimed.

only quicksells at 9 and 10

and a declined offer which proves the anger to be an outlier

Proof that they are quicksales?

How the cunt does a declined offer of some shitty hat prove the Anger to be an outlier?

your 9 and 10 are invalid,because you can't provide they are quicksells (hence the suggestion at 9-10 got closed)

however

this RECENT sale (so not 2 months old) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21468939

clearly shows 10 is a quicksell

that shitty hat go declined,and it's the same value as the anger

the guy who traded it for the anger admitted he just wanted a hearts modest,and that's why he accepted it

and lastly. 10 pure >>>>>>>> 10.7 in unusuals after overpay

unless you provide proof that your 9 and 10 took a long time...

which you said,you can't...

this is wrong.

I didn't say that that particular 10 bud sale was 2 months old. I said the other one was.

Prove to me that they are quick sales.

A trade is a trade regardless of the circumstances behind it. Just because he wanted a Hearts Modest doesn't make the trade invalid.

I can't because it's not my proof. I credited the owners of the proof.

A lot of sales at around that range however tend to show that it is not a quicksale price.

Either counter proof me or leave.

Show me recent sales at 19-21 buds and I'll close this suggestion.

i provided 10 is a quicksell

you can't provide proof for 9-10 = invalid

you got this all wrong. you have to prove they aren't quicksells.

you just copied proof from a failed suggestion. you cannot deny that

The suggestion was closed because of the Buto not having a price. It now has a price + I provided extra proof with the GBH Anger.

I don't care what you have to say as you haven't proof to back it up. An admin will decide.

proof:

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5395e5584dd7b898568b4615

backed it up

Go to this suggestion for reference - http://backpack.tf/vote/id/538e472b4cd7b873178b4b61

Nowhere is it closed for quicksell. Look at the admins reason for closing.

"any links to the trade? coz it could have been quicksells, inwhich the proof is NOT valid"

"Please provide links to the trades so we can see if their quicksells etc...."

EVEN POLAR SAID IT ON YOUR "REFERENCE"

"Can you provide a link to the outpost trade for the sale at 10 so we can evaluate whether that's an outlier or not"

I have 1 sale at 9, 2 at 10 and 1 at 10.7 and 1 at 15.3. Which one out of those 5 do you think is the fucking outlier?

Oh of course, it must be the 4 centered around a similar range and the 15.3 must be the only valid sale.

My mistake.

Fuckhead.

if they fucking quicksell,then its an outlier

there can be a thousand crones sold for 10

if they sold so fast (and especially if it says quicksell in the trade)

it's a quicksell

the end

Yeah brah, putting quicksell in your trade must mean it's a quicksell.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19664875 - 3 months

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21336313 - 2 weeks

Need more?

it doesn't,it needs to sell fast when listed

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21468939

5 hours

1 guy interested - other one bought it

you were saying ?

"if they sold so fast (and especially if it says quicksell in the trade)" - You 32 minutes ago.

There are many sales around 10 as I have proven. Counter please.

one sale is 4 days past 2 months

and the other will get by that mark in 4 days

those quicksells (even if you don't want to prove them)

are getting outdated

and the 10 quicksell i posted is fresh

edit:

unlike you i put some thinking,and generally have arguments.

you just copies proof,and just say it's valid. no arguments at all. you can't even provide a simple thing like outpost links

I credited the source of my proof.

It just adds to supporting my range.

Counter please.

so he took it from the failed suggestion ?

anyhow provide outpost link please.

It was failed due to the Buto being unpriced...

Do you have a learning disability? I told you many a time now that I got the proof from an earlier suggestion. I don't have the Outpost link. I don't even know if Outpost was the medium used to conduct the trade.

i am not talking about the one with the buto. didn't link that one. do you have any issues ?

9-10 suggestion

closed

didn't provide outpost link

READ GOD DAMN IT

READ THE REASON WHY IT WAS CLOSED YOU AUTISTIC FUCK.

FOR REFERENCE

REFERENCE ABOUT WHAT

1st suggestions has NO OUTPOST LINKS

2nd suggestions doesn't have an OUTPOST LINK and has the buto sale

WHY THE HELL SHOULD REFERENCING THE BUTO SALE HELP

Read the admin comments eh lad?

"Can you provide a link to the outpost trade for the sale at 10 so we can evaluate whether that's an outlier or not"

~ Polar

likewise

That wasn't why the suggestion was closed.

I just want to address one point that's most relevant here. Overpay is only applicable to the hat getting offered. So, if the GBH anger is offered to the crones, the anger is expected to overpay. You would apply overpay on the anger. If the crones is offered on the anger, the crones is expected to overpay. It would technically call for a reverse overpay (Anger / 0.9 instead of Anger * 0.9), but in situations like that we just take hats at 1:1 in value.