Suggestion: Kill-a-Watt Professional's Panama at 20.9–24.7 keys

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~11 keys

kill-a-watt

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This suggestion was accepted Tue, 19 Aug 14 22:00:12 +0000 by polar.

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http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53e474864f96f444628b4568

So, of the 100 people who voted on this suggestion, nobody actually bothered to check that the sales were for what he said they were

Sale #3, the sale used for the low end, is blatantly wrong (what are item histories anyways?)

Hey.

Remember when i got this for a c. Base Jumper chem set, 2hard2sell4me

Sellers want 2 buds HAH they lowered their b/o's

My sale:

http://i.imgur.com/tOix7ko.jpg

Valued at ~1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21050754 > http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21118288 2 outlier

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21105310 > http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21367399 0.9 [his b/o is ~1]

As you can clearly see from the item histories on outpost, as well as this backpack snapshot

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198102389007?time=1405753200

The panama did not sell for the duped stormy hot dogger at all.

So given the sale at 1.1, the sale at 2 (in 3rd gen unusuals, gonna call it an outlier) and a b/o at 1.3 ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21376755 ) a more accurate range is 1.1 - 1.3 buds

Update - The seller with a b/o of 25 keys pure actually SOLD for 25 keys pure

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21376755

http://i.imgur.com/f6NFTdV.png

http://i.imgur.com/tZgf0AZ.png

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21376755 So I don't see anywhere it was sold for 1.3 pure. I can't find anything about how much it sold for actually. The new owner doesn't have it for sale, and no comments involving the sale.

After checking his BP, none of the Buds or Keys trace back to this trade either. Nor do any of his unusual.

Edit: The hat was removed from his inventory on the 24th with only a circling Peace Crown entering. The crown does not have any history involving the trade.

Basically, trade is untrackable so I don't really think you can use it as proof of anything.

The way I see it, I'm not raising the price, I'm lowering the price properly (not using incorrect sales to set the low end). Since the previous suggestion was lowering the price from 2 buds, it seems reasonable to use a b/o significantly under the old price to help set the range. I pulled the link to the 1.3 seller from the old suggestion (I have no idea what it actually sold for), which was one of his unsolds at the time. I know ideally I would find another sale, but I'm not really trying to do a whole new suggestion here, just fixing an error in the previous one (and besides, as Same2Me showed, it can still sell above the range I'm suggesting in unusuals)

So if you have no idea what it sold for, why are you passing it off as 1.3 buds? We don't price things based off feelings.

His sale also doesn't support your range at all, and he has outdated hats in there which would need mini-suggestions to prove what their worth. Even then you'd have to remake the suggestion anyways.

That aside, unless you plan on showing us actual proof of 1.3 buds, you have no valid proof for "fixing" the price.

Might wanna read through this for more info http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/7-how-to-create-a-good-unusual-price-suggestion/

So a better range would be 1.1 - 2 buds? After all, those are the two valid sales provided in the previous suggestion, and all I'm trying to do is resuggest that one without the incorrect sale. But 2 buds is pretty obviously an outlier, so I decided to use the 1.3 bud SELLER provided in the previous suggestion to set the high end of the range, which you are allowed to do when dropping a price

If you can add the user and get a screenshot of his trade history, then you'd certainly have 2 sales to work with. Other then that, there just isn't enough proof out there at the moment to do much else. I'd suggest waiting for the next sale if you can't contact him.

I sold a Ghosts Softcap (2.5) for the KAW panama (2 at da tem) + Blizzardy Hot Dogger (1)

2.5 - 1 = 1.5

1.5 * .9 = 1.35, rounding to 1.4 buds

http://gyazo.com/7d4b324f02e75aabd52501fd673c92f0

Sold + 4 keys in mixed (.25 buds) for a smoking brigade (~1.5) + S.F Flame (11 keys, .68 buds)

1.5 - .25 = 1.25

1.25 + .68 = ~1.9 buds

Both a little outdated but meh

Ok man I know where you're coming from but you need more proof...Than just you selling it for this much and someone who's selling it for close to this amount..

BTW they both ask for 2 buds to 2.5 buds so I actually don't see any proof for this pricing. Honestly that's for changing it to 2-2.5 not 1.1-1.3

You should use this evidence to make turn it back to 2 buds at least. Honestly that retard Pearly Gates used these links to make it 1 bud yet both sells were for 2 buds...