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What is a key? A miserable little pile of secrets!
I can drop this by using classifieds alone.
No worry Google, next time is yours!
Unsolds at 7.77
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21762507
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21793059
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21261068
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21857783
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21673416
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21544197
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21837063
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21851731
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21736444
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18917941
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21848415
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21687166
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21852910
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21691113
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21805843
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21749970
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21833826
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21673416
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21687166
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18917941
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21862490
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859212
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21440218
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859239
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21813203
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21833457
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21855351
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859212
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21720259
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18827992
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21736444
Sold/ Selling for 7.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21599783
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21845586
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21780397
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21813816
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21743410
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21801543
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21841168
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21863139
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21623357
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21848237
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21492968
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21787528
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21761707
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21828412
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21743410
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21756342
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21863854
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20302795
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21824839
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21817153
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21854251
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21851770
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21126564
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21817157
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21858563
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859395
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21832528
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21834293
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21853044
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21854251
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21816314
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21839655
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21787528
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21656732
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21858472
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21817153
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21857899
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21854251
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20376622
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21831719
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21858672
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21832197
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21845707
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21813816
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21851770
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21844667
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859517
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21462355
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21858764
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21848237
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21785925
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21761707
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21853691
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859768
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21858744
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21822858
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21693244
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21698086
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21865240
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21865257
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21836705
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21817153
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21810089
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21853044
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21858764
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21544197
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859435
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21828412
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19429050
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21857528
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21842516
Sold/ Selling for 7.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21845652
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21815430
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21625529
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21846824
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21594265
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21857876
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21866918
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21668927
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19479890
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21706056
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20954058
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21846587
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21594265
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21798438
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21857876
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21655630
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18410570
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21706056
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21531998
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21427855
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21462355
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21816166
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21521961
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21322895
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21844970
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21815430
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21830839
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21655630
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21860155
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20954058
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21815430
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21789913
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19101223
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21863646
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21576416
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21814600
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21865050
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21668927
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21293510
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21019940
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21551753
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21861379
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21531998
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21736255
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21845652
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859437
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21861109
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21777710
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859566
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21848682
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21830839
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21322895
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19479890
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20954058
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21832751
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21019940
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21427855
Sold/ Selling for less than my suggested range
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21857826 - 7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21853466 - 7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21058028 - 7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21842962 - 7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859224 - 7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20999006 - 7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21744171 - 7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21861067 - 7.44 (Rare key. I'm so lucky to grab it, offer on my rare key nao: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21864527 )
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21863806 - 7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21842585 - 7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21275833 - 7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21863800 - 7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21864220 - 7.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859369 - 7.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21866458 - 7.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21866924 - 7.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21841798 - 7.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21855497 - 7.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859682 - 7.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21863895 - 7.00
Conclusion: Now 7.55 - 7.66 is most commonly trading point.
And how low can keys go? From trade.tf: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/trade_tf#announcements/detail/282918295434293203
Feel free to counter / support my proofs.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21777710
My trade was just turned into 7.55 2 hours ago :)
It was 7.66 before at selling price.
Had trouble selling mine for 7.55 ref. Took me close to an hour just to sell a key at 7.55
Support.
http://gyazo.com/9c24c4e6218ce7fffd6c1080c652c1de
I don't think 7.66 should still be in the range, I know some sells still happen at 7.66 but with so many people selling for 7.55 and lower, I would cut 7.66 out of the range. No one selling for 7.66 here http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 - scrap.tf has over 913 unsold at 7.66 http://scrap.tf/keys - and tf2 finance has it at 7.55 http://tf2finance.com/keys/# . Conclusion keeping 7.66 in range seem a little too conservative.
If you really check the market, you will find more sales at 7.66 than 7.55.
Believe me, I know the market.
posted at 7.66 and after about 10 minutes of nothing, i managed to sell 2 at 7.44 almost instantly.
don't really know if this helps, but hey, good luck.
proof: http://gyazo.com/f2a03eb6fea94be3405a118ba1d47c48
Ok, someone won me AGAIN...
But the suggestion is good, I thought what 7.66 isn't selling, but you have some good links for 7.66 sales. Upvote, next time possibly will be 7.33 - 7.44.
People are quickselling at 7 Ref pure :O
Lots of proof upvote :D
Upvote nice proof.
Good job at* checking the proof in less than 1 minute. I would like to be as fast as you one day.
Well he is jimmy cary i'm sure he just turned into the mask to turn and read those pages under a min.
Holy links Batman, upvote
DAT links, upvote lol
The keys will keep going down and I am happy about it. 3 days = -0.11
#SAIVDAKEYZ
upvote just for the castlevania reference..oh and the proof is nice to
Someone explain why the key is going down all of a sudden? Thought I saw the highest price go up to 8.44 ref or something like that.
Anyway, upvote.
From theories I've heard is that the key has hit a price "wall" that they went up and up and up and now its at this boundary that can't go any higher. And I also saw something to do with consumption which trade.tf explained, I think, kind of well. Take a look: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/trade_tf#announcements/detail/282918295434293203
Thank you for the details!
No problem
That also got me thinking, after looking at the post: If and when the key reaches the lowest potential price point, would they start rising again when hype ends?
I think thats too hard to say right now. They will stay at the price for awhile I think but I have no idea whats going to happen next.
The cycle: Google, Plax, Giang
This is the order we will now use to drop keys
#FallOfTheKeys
#BudsAren'tRising
#EconomyIsFucked
#Upvote
#FallOfTheKeys
#RefsAren'tRising
#EconomyIsn'tFucked
#Upvote
Fix'd
Economy isn't fucked, dunno where you got that from.
Forgot to fix that.
Fix'd again
The economy has never been stronger.
How long will this game of suggestion ping-pong go on?
But enough talk, have at you! *drops key price*
- Mr.Giang, Symphony of the Keys
How low will they go xD
"No worry Google, next time is yours!" that's what he always says...
From your 7.77 links
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21261068[/url] is a mass seller, and has sold multiple.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21857783[/url] has no keys in bp, and 2/3 sold according to item history.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21673416[/url] is a mass seller and has interest.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21544197[/url] is a mass seller/banker and has sold.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21837063[/url] has sold one according to item history.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21736444[/url] has sold one according to item history.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18917941[/url] is a mass seller and has sold multiple.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21848415[/url] is selling multiple, and is 1 day old.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21687166[/url] has sold multiple according to item history.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21852910[/url] is 23 hours old & could be bumped better.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21691113[/url] is selling at 7.88....
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21805843[/url] has sold at least one.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21749970[/url] is selling at 7.66....
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21673416[/url] is a dupe.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21687166[/url] is a dupe.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18917941[/url] is a dupe.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859212[/url] is selling at 7.66.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21440218[/url] has sold at least one according to item history.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859239[/url] sold some to a bot according to item history.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21813203[/url] has sold one according to item history.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21859212[/url] is a dupe and is selling for 7.66.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21720259[/url] is a mass seller, has sold multiple according to item history, and has adds/offers.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21736444[/url] has sold one according to item history.
Downvote until more proof or if I made a mistake (please point out if I made a mistake, I'm terrified I screwed something up).
Haha...you really think dupe on keys/ref/buds matter? Dupes on them don't matter and never mattered. If you really think that, you are closing yourself into a very tiny market which you will have extremely hard time dealing with.
Also, 7.55 - 7.66 has clearly overtaken the market. I myself had trouble selling mine at 7.55 ref
It's true, the proof [i[for[/i] the new range really is overwhelming. I just feel like the unsolds are... faulty. I haven't had a key in a while, so I certainly don't understand the market as well as you guys.
Yes, keys will sell in and out of range. Always have and always will. Keys are selling as low as 7.00 ref at the moment and as high as 8.00 ref at the moment. The main thing matters here is that what is the most common trading point. There is a vast majority sellers and sales happening at 7.55 - 7.66 than anything higher/lower than that. ^.^
With amount of keys for sale at 7.55/ 7.66, it's safe to say that they are outliers.
Keys can be sold at any prices and many of your statements are wrong, like:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21736444 - Sold one in 5 days? You gotta be kidding.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21673416 - No one cares about duped keys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21805843 - 2 days and sold 1? Wow.
And so on...
That's it, not checking anymore.
This is great!
It's taken seconds for me to sell them at 7.55 but people seem to have no problem listing them for 7.33 and 7.00 so hey, I like this, but I feel 7.66 needs to gtfo because 7.55 is just peachy.
If you really take a look on the market, 7.66 happen way more than 7.55. It isn't reasonable to remove it.
They sell at 7.66?o.o I had a hard time selling at 7.55
Srs this is a fucking competition.
Nope, I just want to update key's price as fast as possible. No derpy competition here.
Why would you want to do it? That's completely destroying tf2's economy to gain reputation.
It's about price-updating. If I wanted to rep-farm, I would move to DotA 2 backpack. You are just making no sense.
You're currently repfarming on dota backpack, Do you think I haven't seen all your suggestions there?
http://dota2.backpack.tf/vote/id/53e327344ed7b8e2318b46a3
Much rep-farming. To update this damn key price, I have to close one of my DotA 2 suggestions. And you call that rep-farming?
gg. Will stop commenting any braindead replies from you now.
I don't see how its "destroying" economy. Also, what Giang said...If rep-farm/rep-whoring is the cause...Its better to suggest at Dota2 because its incredibly easier and less time consuming than suggesting here.
it's not destroying the economy, the purpose of backpacktf's price guides are to follow the economy, not to lead it
Now that's proof!
DEATH TO KEYS! 👍✌
Considering how quickly these suggestions are coming and going, I'm surprised I managed to catch this one. I missed the previous 4 suggestions. ._ .
Anyways, proof looks great! Upvote!
The owner of trade.tf just posted this http://steamcommunity.com/groups/trade_tf#announcements/detail/282918295434293203
Keys are dying ...
one hour searching links,DAMN
why not? UPVOTE!
I bet there lots of 7.66 unsolds to even remove 7.66 from range, regardless think there still 7 8 hour cooldown.
I can't. There are too many 7.66 solds to remove 7.66 out of the range.
people are selling Lower than The Low price.
I just bought 3 keys off a guy selling for 7.44.
Upvote, sold a key for 7.66 as well.
Looks like people are desperate to sell their keys at backpack.tf value before the value lowers. :):
Nice proof
nice to see my trade on solds ( 21594265 ), might wanna note how many keys I've flipped tho. I've noted it all down in the trade. sold many at 7.55, some at 7.44, and purchased a metric ton (read: only 23) of keys at 7.33.
dayum dat proof
upvote
wow keys might even go back down to 7 ref O_O
selling at 7.66 takes forever, think it should drop to 7.33-7.44 but whatever upvote
Loving the proof!! Up vote for me
I think 7.55 ref more good price for now, more and more sellers for 7.44 and less and less sellers for 7.66
So much proof... can't argue with it.
Bye-bye, keys, you won't be missed.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21865014#latest
bought for 7.5 each took less than 5 mins >.>
Its says, STATUS: Assigned, what does that mean?